The F1 Plot Thickens...
The F1 Plot Thickens...
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Mac355

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155 posts

260 months

RobDown

3,807 posts

159 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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I don't want to sound like a killjoy here. But while its wonderful to see Aston Martin investing considerably in promoting themselves as a high tech, luxury, F1-type brand, producing hypercars et al, it would also be nice if they invested some money in doing the basics right with existing customers and cars to whit:

1. Sorting out the paint issues (if you can build a hypercar, surely you can paint an ordinary car without the paint bubbling after 12 months around the door handles).

2. Communicating with existing customers. Again one of the basics for any modern company; have a CRM system that allows you to send out appropriate and timely emails to the existing customer base and one that allows you to target car launches, car sales etc at them

Feels like the part of the company the media sees is very advanced and modern and then the part we customers get to interface with is stuck in the last century.

There I did sound like a killjoy rolleyes

Jon39

15,015 posts

174 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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RobDown said:
There I did sound like a killjoy rolleyes

Not at all Rob.

My garden waste dump run car is a 22 year old GM repmobile. At 120,000 miles, the paintwork has lasted surprisingly well, and still looks really good even after having only the occasional waxing. A so called Timeless, hand built premium car, costing 10x the new GM price, ought to have even better paintwork, and when they become aware of more bubbles than a fish tank, should have sorted the fault immediately years ago. Mirror arms often have more peel than an apple. A disgrace.

Customer communication - no excuses with the technology available today.
Perhaps the new customers buying the £m AMs, get a different standard of after sales contact.
They might even get a magazine, remember that? With so many adverts, it probably even cost nothing to send out. I get dealer emails, but nothing now from Gaydon.



quench

564 posts

177 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Jon39 said:
Perhaps the new customers buying the £m AMs, get a different standard of after sales contact.
Hmm... you might be on to something there.

I'm a three time customer, but not of the $million+ model variety. Recently, I had a problem on my V12VS that resulted in MONTHS of time at the dealership (two separate visits in 2016 and 2017). The problem has not recurred since the car was returned to me, but I had zero, zilch, nada contact from anyone to see if the car was running to my satisfaction.

In contrast, I have had a series of daily drivers acquired through my local BMW dealership, and they are religious in their after sales and after service followup.

As per above, don't forget about the core business. F1 might be sexy, but really?

hornbaek

3,845 posts

266 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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I can't fail to think that F1 is past its time - so with AML getting into it they are picking the wrong moment and start spending money (they don't have) on something which the board and the CEO can indulge themselves in. Its a private company so they can do what they like, but it is not something that I find remotly brand enhancing.

David W.

1,952 posts

240 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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I personally think they get enhanced kudos from the Wec races which is more applicable to road cars but recognise that F1 maybe more mainstream to a greater proportion of the general public, not that one of the top brands in the world already needs much help with publicity.
DW

williamp

20,466 posts

304 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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If you're already the collest brand rolleyes where else do you go??

embdenb

170 posts

134 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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williamp said:
If you're already the collest brand rolleyes where else do you go??
Try to keep the customers you currently have and perhaps expand your customer base by treating your present customers like the loyal people they are.

Bobajobbob

1,599 posts

127 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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As mentioned above the F1 brand isn’t what it once was and Redbull isn’t exactly Ferrari or McLaren. Given Hondas and Mclarens experience I hope they know what they are doing. It is a lot harder to compete in the engine wars in this era.

Bincenzo

2,606 posts

210 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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I'm sure they'll be fine, there are plenty of experts on this forum that they can ask advice from......

Vantagefan

643 posts

201 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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quench said:
Jon39 said:
Perhaps the new customers buying the £m AMs, get a different standard of after sales contact.
Hmm... you might be on to something there.

I'm a three time customer, but not of the $million+ model variety. Recently, I had a problem on my V12VS that resulted in MONTHS of time at the dealership (two separate visits in 2016 and 2017). The problem has not recurred since the car was returned to me, but I had zero, zilch, nada contact from anyone to see if the car was running to my satisfaction.

In contrast, I have had a series of daily drivers acquired through my local BMW dealership, and they are religious in their after sales and after service followup.

As per above, don't forget about the core business. F1 might be sexy, but really?
Gaydon probably sees this as a dealership job, as they should manage and nurture their customers to get repeat sales. The dealers will bemoan AML not giving them enough insight about what's going on to plan ahead. I've worked in marketing on both sides for various brands and each side could do better.

More brands are moving to direct sales in some form, they should also move to direct customer care and marketing. Existing customers are the biggest priority, they're easier to up-sell to and are advocates for the brand and products.

AMDBSVNick

7,221 posts

193 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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David W. said:
But recognise that F1 maybe more mainstream to a greater proportion of the general public.
I'd rather watch my dog have a st than watch F1 but the above point can't be ignored.

BTW; 30 years ago I would never have missed a race


dbs2000

2,756 posts

223 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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AMDBSVNick said:
I'd rather watch my dog have a st than watch F1 but the above point can't be ignored.

BTW; 30 years ago I would never have missed a race
Same as above, except the last part. Make that 10 years smile

RobDown

3,807 posts

159 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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For the record I have no interest in watching Nick's dog have a st, regardless of what's on TV smile

kbooker

728 posts

170 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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AMDBSVNick said:
I'd rather watch my dog have a st than watch F1 but the above point can't be ignored.

BTW; 30 years ago I would never have missed a race
laugh