Warning light MOT failure
Warning light MOT failure
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willld

Original Poster:

239 posts

277 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Our Mazda 3 has failed it's MOT because the traction control indicator is permanently lit. This is the one that would normally flash on and off to indicate a loss of traction. It does not illuminate on start-up and is located in the rev-counter dial.

The car has a separate DSC-OFF indicator which comes on briefly at start-up as normal, or stays lit if the DSC is turned off. There is also a separate ABS indicator which lights briefly on start-up and then goes out. These are both located in the speedo dial.

If the indicator showing temporary loss of traction wasn't lit and the other two by the speedo cycled as normal on start-up would it then pass the MOT?

HustleRussell

25,706 posts

177 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Depends on whether the examiner notices that the light doesn't illuminate and extinguish during the startup.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

143 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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If it isn't explicitly in the Reasons for Rejection, it must pass.

https://www.mot-testing.service.gov.uk/documents/m...

willld

Original Poster:

239 posts

277 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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This indicator is not part of the normal start-up sequence.

Thanks, from that it looks like that because the light is on permanently it is indicating a fault, whether there is a fault or not, so it has failed. If there was no light and there was still a fault it would pass, as long as everything looked ok.

I'll check all the fuses and if that fails I suppose I'll have to get it diagnosed by a specialist.

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

125 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Just disconnect the wiring prior to the Test

normalbloke

8,151 posts

236 months

Thursday 28th September 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
Just disconnect the wiring prior to the Test
I knew it wouldn't be long....

Dire Grammes

40 posts

96 months

Thursday 28th September 2017
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Youtube may be your friend for this problems solution

Search "How to reset the DSC Mazda 3"

Little Pete

1,773 posts

111 months

Thursday 28th September 2017
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How is the failure worded? I didn't think Traction Control was a testable item.

willld

Original Poster:

239 posts

277 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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The failure is quoted as per the link TooMany2cvs has mentioned above - 3.4 1.c. There just seems to be a 'drop down box' kind of arrangement with a list of standard failure reasons from which the tester picks the nearest one. I understand it is testable if there is a fault showing.

With a modern car I'd imagine it would be pretty difficult to 'disable' the indicator, without leaving other tell-tale signs and then it would fail for tampering - 3.4 4

The You Tube 'fix' only works if the battery has been disconnected.

Failure of the ABS/DSC unit on these cars appears to be a well know problem, so it's been sent away for reconditioning frown



Edited by willld on Thursday 5th October 12:54

helix402

7,913 posts

199 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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To get the car to pass without fixing the problem should be possible. You will have abs but no stability control. You’d have to remove the warning light from wherever it is, if there is a stability control button that would need to be removed to and replaced with a blank.
It’s possible on some cars, yes it’s technically a bodge but if done correctly it’ll pass the MOT.