Moving from a petrol to diesel.
Discussion
Hey all,
Im currently looking to reduce overall costs of motoring, unfortunately this means selling my much loved E46 330ci. I can no longer warrent the cost of getting 24-27mpg on a daily basis and yearly tax (£305).
I have had a look at a lovely 120d coupe, which while dosnt have the lovley sound of the 3.0 6 cylinder, it suits my needs.
My question is with the current climate of diesels now, is it worth getting a diesel? or getting a small engine petrol?
Im currently looking to reduce overall costs of motoring, unfortunately this means selling my much loved E46 330ci. I can no longer warrent the cost of getting 24-27mpg on a daily basis and yearly tax (£305).
I have had a look at a lovely 120d coupe, which while dosnt have the lovley sound of the 3.0 6 cylinder, it suits my needs.
My question is with the current climate of diesels now, is it worth getting a diesel? or getting a small engine petrol?
Big GT said:
You will probably save 3rd on your fuel cost and what £150 year on tax.
So is that worth the change?
Remember a good rust free e46 3.0 ers are worth hanging onto.
This is what makes parting with it hard, Ive taken care of the car and kept it in great condition, any rust issues (arches) were treated early.So is that worth the change?
Remember a good rust free e46 3.0 ers are worth hanging onto.
This week ive put in £50 of fuel, so really looking to reduce that.
gibson2004 said:
Big GT said:
You will probably save 3rd on your fuel cost and what £150 year on tax.
So is that worth the change?
Remember a good rust free e46 3.0 ers are worth hanging onto.
This is what makes parting with it hard, Ive taken care of the car and kept it in great condition, any rust issues (arches) were treated early.So is that worth the change?
Remember a good rust free e46 3.0 ers are worth hanging onto.
This week ive put in £50 of fuel, so really looking to reduce that.
running costs
Not as simple as saving money on fuel, though the page above will let you compare that. It's more about the overall cost. You might save a few quid on fuel and tax but the cost of buying the new car could decimate this.
Not as simple as saving money on fuel, though the page above will let you compare that. It's more about the overall cost. You might save a few quid on fuel and tax but the cost of buying the new car could decimate this.
Your current car is quite old. I'm guessing the the replacement isn't new.
If your current car is otherwise reliable it will almost certainly be cheaper to continue using it until it becomes too unreliable and or costly to maintain.
A new car still needs to be serviced and if you're buying a car that's a few years old, it's quite possible that it will need some work doing to it too. My theory, for what it's worth, is that as long as it can get between services without repair and those repairs cost less than the annual average deprecation, keep running it.
If you already have a lump sum set asside for the car and your current car is good enough, keep running it and keep topping up your new car fund. The longer you leave it, the more you will have and the better the replacement will be. For my money, you're pretty borderline for it making financial sense for a diesel. You won't want one after a 6 cylinder 3 Series, but there are petrol cars like my Jazz, an Ecoboost Fiesta and their contemporaries that will do 50mpg without the associated diesel related issues.
If your current car is otherwise reliable it will almost certainly be cheaper to continue using it until it becomes too unreliable and or costly to maintain.
A new car still needs to be serviced and if you're buying a car that's a few years old, it's quite possible that it will need some work doing to it too. My theory, for what it's worth, is that as long as it can get between services without repair and those repairs cost less than the annual average deprecation, keep running it.
If you already have a lump sum set asside for the car and your current car is good enough, keep running it and keep topping up your new car fund. The longer you leave it, the more you will have and the better the replacement will be. For my money, you're pretty borderline for it making financial sense for a diesel. You won't want one after a 6 cylinder 3 Series, but there are petrol cars like my Jazz, an Ecoboost Fiesta and their contemporaries that will do 50mpg without the associated diesel related issues.
i would do it. with the mileage you are doing you will wear out the 120d before the goverment clobber you, unless you are very regularly entering major urban areas. the odd congestion charge payment will easily be offset by your savings. i assume here that you arent buying a new(ish) 120d as the cost to change will be higher than the fuel/tax saving
My budget is £5k,
Ive also been informed by work that i might be moving offices come the end of the year, the other office is a few more miles away.
Looking at the route to this new office, it will mean i go into town traffic, my E46 gets 21mpg in stop/start traffic. Keeping the E46 sadly isnt an option for me anymore.
This now looks like this thread is turning into a informous "What Car" thread. So i ask the experts of PistonHeads, What would you do in this situation? Staying with a petrol engine is still an option for me, but i think with a £5k budget, i cant afford the new small engine turbos
Ive also been informed by work that i might be moving offices come the end of the year, the other office is a few more miles away.
Looking at the route to this new office, it will mean i go into town traffic, my E46 gets 21mpg in stop/start traffic. Keeping the E46 sadly isnt an option for me anymore.
This now looks like this thread is turning into a informous "What Car" thread. So i ask the experts of PistonHeads, What would you do in this situation? Staying with a petrol engine is still an option for me, but i think with a £5k budget, i cant afford the new small engine turbos
gibson2004 said:
Hey all,
Im currently looking to reduce overall costs of motoring, unfortunately this means selling my much loved E46 330ci. I can no longer warrent the cost of getting 24-27mpg on a daily basis and yearly tax (£305).
I have had a look at a lovely 120d coupe, which while dosnt have the lovley sound of the 3.0 6 cylinder, it suits my needs.
My question is with the current climate of diesels now, is it worth getting a diesel? or getting a small engine petrol?
If you're going to get a diesel then make sure it's a Euro6 & you won't have any problems with future legislation, you're right to change because your E46 would have been subject to the same proposed charges as certain diesels.Im currently looking to reduce overall costs of motoring, unfortunately this means selling my much loved E46 330ci. I can no longer warrent the cost of getting 24-27mpg on a daily basis and yearly tax (£305).
I have had a look at a lovely 120d coupe, which while dosnt have the lovley sound of the 3.0 6 cylinder, it suits my needs.
My question is with the current climate of diesels now, is it worth getting a diesel? or getting a small engine petrol?
At the moment you can get a Euro5 petrol but expect legislation to shortly follow to allow councils to tax those too, so in regards of what to buy next be it petrol or diesel make sure it's Euro6.
Also for others the government has already stated it will not allow councils to discriminate against one type of fuel so they will do it by Euro levels hence the tax on Euro4 & below vehicles.
So if you do the miles & can afford a Euro6 petrol/diesel & you do the mileage to justify the latter then get a diesel.
My advise would be...
Plan A - Try to keep the 330ci. If its a good example it will not loose value and should start increasing within the next 5 years. Then purchase a 120d or Golf TDI such like as your daily.
Plan B - If finance or other reasons cancel out plan A, then 120d or Alpina D3 will be safe ish bet , both are good drives and 45mpg+
Plan A - Try to keep the 330ci. If its a good example it will not loose value and should start increasing within the next 5 years. Then purchase a 120d or Golf TDI such like as your daily.
Plan B - If finance or other reasons cancel out plan A, then 120d or Alpina D3 will be safe ish bet , both are good drives and 45mpg+
ZX10R NIN said:
If you're going to get a diesel then make sure it's a Euro6 & you won't have any problems with future legislation, you're right to change because your E46 would have been subject to the same proposed charges as certain diesels.
At the moment you can get a Euro5 petrol but expect legislation to shortly follow to allow councils to tax those too, so in regards of what to buy next be it petrol or diesel make sure it's Euro6.
Also for others the government has already stated it will not allow councils to discriminate against one type of fuel so they will do it by Euro levels hence the tax on Euro4 & below vehicles.
So if you do the miles & can afford a Euro6 petrol/diesel & you do the mileage to justify the latter then get a diesel.
im not aware of any proposed charges the E46 maybe subject to in the near future? could you post a link so i can have a look? At the moment you can get a Euro5 petrol but expect legislation to shortly follow to allow councils to tax those too, so in regards of what to buy next be it petrol or diesel make sure it's Euro6.
Also for others the government has already stated it will not allow councils to discriminate against one type of fuel so they will do it by Euro levels hence the tax on Euro4 & below vehicles.
So if you do the miles & can afford a Euro6 petrol/diesel & you do the mileage to justify the latter then get a diesel.
If you live in & around London as of 2019 if you drive in the congestion zone part of Central London you (if for example you own any E46) you will have to pay a ULEZ charge of £12.50.
There's also a proposal for this to be extended out to as far as the South & North Circular as of 2021.
This will run 24/365
There's also a proposal for this to be extended out to as far as the South & North Circular as of 2021.
This will run 24/365
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