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dugless

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317 posts

262 months

Monday 11th April 2005
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My back lawn is infested with ' leather jackets ',them things that turn into daddy long legs,they look like caterpillars and there eating the roots of my grass.

How do I get rid of them without killing of what grass is left ?

thanks for any advice..

and sorry for the boring post

vixpy1

42,699 posts

293 months

Monday 11th April 2005
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Gardening thread!

Stu247

815 posts

275 months

Monday 11th April 2005
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vixpy1 said:
Gardening thread!

As long as it's not about Uphill Gardening...it's fine by me !!

slikk

2,135 posts

272 months

Monday 11th April 2005
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vixpy1 said:
Gardening thread!


I agree. Get several lengths of gardening thread, manufacture small nooses, suspend them from small but perfectly formed model gallows and wait for the little fellas to hang themselves.

Works on neighbours children too, just alter the scale.



jessica

6,321 posts

281 months

Monday 11th April 2005
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Think you just have to go around manually removing them...
No idea how else to get rid
or just leave them be.
U must have a very nice lawn if they are bothering you.
I have very clumpy clay soil and growing grass on it is a nightmare.

dugless

Original Poster:

317 posts

262 months

Monday 11th April 2005
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slikk said:

vixpy1 said:
Gardening thread!



I agree. Get several lengths of gardening thread, manufacture small nooses, suspend them from small but perfectly formed model gallows and wait for the little fellas to hang themselves.

Works on neighbours children too, just alter the scale.





by the time I make hundreds of thousands of gallows the garden will be over-run with them,so thats not a good idea.I need another one.

MilnerR

8,273 posts

287 months

Monday 11th April 2005
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Have a chat with these guys, all your gardening worries solved in an instant. Not only that but you could potentially have somewhere to build a workshop

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Monday 11th April 2005
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Some oil or other, cant remember the name of it, note not Gear or Engine.

Its great for spider mites should do the job on other creepy crawlies.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

276 months

Monday 11th April 2005
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Identification

1. Is your turf developing bare spots or thin spots in March, April or May?
2. Do you see the insects commonly known as "Daddy Long Legs", flying near your turf or gathering on walls?
3. Do you see maggots in your turf that are leathery and grey/brown?

If you have seen these symptoms or insects, the European crane fly is probably living in your turf. These pests can appear in grass which has otherwise been free of them.

General Information

The European crane fly, or leather jacket, is an insect that can damage your turf. All insects have several life stages, and they can look very different. For example, the leather jacket is a maggot at one time during the year and a flying insect ("Daddy Long Legs") at another.

As you start to mow your lawn in the spring (March-April), the maggots of the crane fly are feeding on your turf. In general, they stay underground in the day and move up to the turf leaves in the night. They are very sensitive to drying, and do not survive if they are dried out when heated up by the sun. On very cloudy days when the turf is wet, you can see the larvae in the turf. They are about 25mm long and have a grey/brown leathery skin.

They will feed on your turf for several months (March-June) and then migrate into the ground, where they change into a crane fly. The crane flies emerge from the turf and fly about, sometimes gathering in groups on walls near the turf. In fact, they are laying eggs to produce more crane flies. Because the crane fly maggots feed on your turf roots, they can weaken the turf, causing it to grow poorly, thin out, and even die, leaving bare spots.

How do you determine if you have a serious problem with leather jackets?

If your grass is growing poorly or thinning in small patches during the months of March-May, there is a problem with your turf. Check those areas early in the morning when the grass is wet for the presence of the leathery, brown maggots.

Be aware that there are insects other than leather jackets that will damage your turf

If you have a leather jacket problem in your turf, when should you try to control the insects?

The time to control the insects is when they are maggots, not flies. When you see them on the walls or flying about, it is generally ineffective to kill them with insect spray. However, if they do bother you, kill them. Your turf will not be relieved, but you might be! Therefore, when you see damage, and you have identified larvae feeding on your turf in the night or early morning, you should try and control them.

How do you control leather-jackets in your turf?

1. Water your lawn lightly in the evening. Cover it with black polythene sheeting. Bin liners are fine. The larvae will be attracted to the wet, dark surface and won't be aware of the dawn. In the early morning, remove the black polythene sheet. Many of the larvae will be caught on the surface. You can let the birds do the removal job for you or rake them off.

2. Or go to the opposite extreme. When the maggots are feeding in your turf, water your turf less. The turf can be dried out quite a bit before it will suffer, but the maggots need to be wet to survive.

3. Check with a turf expert and see if biological agents are available for controlling the leather-jackets. The agents are parasitic nematodes (very tiny wormlike animals) that attack and kill the leather jacket maggots. Through research, these agents are becoming more effective and available.

Can you use an insecticide to control the leather jackets?

Insecticides may be available for the control of leatherjackets. Before purchasing or using insecticides make sure the insects you want to control are identified by an expert. Be careful when you use them around your home. We recommend that you obtain advice about chemical and non-chemical products directly from the manufacturers.

Remember: The leather jacket can damage your turf, and you will see the damage in the spring. Proper lawn care and controlling these insects will give you a beautiful lawn.

longwool

193 posts

263 months

Monday 11th April 2005
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You may find it difficult to purchase from a garden centre etc. Try an agricultural merchant or ask a farmer friend.........if you have one or know any.
The most effective form of chemical control will be achieved by spraying chlorpyrifos. This is most often sold under the brand name Dursban.
For further information search for Dursban on the Dow Elanco web site.

HTH

2 Smokin Barrels

31,993 posts

264 months

Monday 11th April 2005
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I hope it's not chafer grubs. The whole area where I live has been infested. People have tried nemintodes (tiny critters which are supposed to eat the bigger critters).

We were told a hard winter might sort it. Shame we've had a mild one. Apparently rolling with a heavy roller might crush em!

Lois

14,706 posts

281 months

Monday 11th April 2005
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I suggest soaking them out and collecting them if you can.

Some advice on here

cosmoschick

7,977 posts

278 months

Monday 11th April 2005
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dugless said:
My back lawn is infested with ' leather jackets '...


I can't stand those things.

I find gardening quite therapeutic but the (long) worms, slugs and maggots make my skin crawl!

mawds

825 posts

269 months

Tuesday 12th April 2005
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wasps lay their eggs in them - so if there's a wasps' nest nearby, don't kill them. Remember a story about a local cricket club which had some wasps exterminated then had to re-lay the square after it became infested with the now predator-free leatherjackets

simpo two

92,680 posts

294 months

Tuesday 12th April 2005
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Lawn insecticide.

Or one summer evening you can go out, see them emerging and stamp on the critters