Audi new S5 owners in London
Discussion
Hi everyone.
I wonder if there's any S5 owners that live in London on here? I'm looking at ordering one, and the MPG has me a bit worried. Everything I've found online that has been making me feel optimistic has been from people who're doing a lot of A&B road driving.
I'm wondering what those of us who spend their days in stop-start traffic are getting from this car.
My main commute is from Hammersmith to Battersea every day, and my car rarely, if ever, leaves west London. I'm almost always crawling along in traffic.
Any idea on what MPG I'm going to return would be great - need to work out if this car is viable for those rare, but fun, times when I'm actually on a twisty bit of road outside the M25!
Cheers
John
I wonder if there's any S5 owners that live in London on here? I'm looking at ordering one, and the MPG has me a bit worried. Everything I've found online that has been making me feel optimistic has been from people who're doing a lot of A&B road driving.
I'm wondering what those of us who spend their days in stop-start traffic are getting from this car.
My main commute is from Hammersmith to Battersea every day, and my car rarely, if ever, leaves west London. I'm almost always crawling along in traffic.
Any idea on what MPG I'm going to return would be great - need to work out if this car is viable for those rare, but fun, times when I'm actually on a twisty bit of road outside the M25!
Cheers
John
Further into: currently driving a BMW 430D xDrive Gran Coupe, and getting 33mpg. I don't drive fast very much, but I just like having a car with some performance on tap.
I'm figuring that if I'm getting 33mpg driving almost entirely in town, in a 6 cylinder twin turbo diesel, then I should maybe expect to be able to get about 23-24MPG in the S5, don't you think?
I had my heart set on an S3 before this, thinking it would be nice to have a small car for a change, but then realised I just can't live with a hatchback (especially the S3, which felt extremely tinny and plastic-y), so then I went all the way to the top and considered an RS6, but on an extended test drive for two days, I found it way too big to use sensibly in London day-to-day. Now I'm on the S5, which seems to tick a lot of requirements I have in a car. And it's got bloody massaging seats!
I want to switch to petrol, because I'm worried about the measures against diesel coming into play in the capital, but at the moment, from a lease perspective, I can get a standard S5 for about 320 a month ex-VAT (800 less than the RS6), and there isn't a single comparable car from BMW or Mercedes that comes close to offering the amount of things as standard, or the performance, in one package. It just seems like an absolute bargain, and it looks gorgeous in person. No photo I've seen does it justice at all.
My main turn off of the RS6 was that it was just absolutely huge (I didn't check the MPG). It was like steering a giant sexy barge. When I looked at the dealership's S5, their test car was sitting at 6.9mpg, which was terrifying. I generally put 20 quid at a time in my car just because I can't stand waiting at pumps, and on that basis, every time I put 20 quid in my BMW, I'd be putting 80 in the S5.
That can't be right, surely?
I'm figuring that if I'm getting 33mpg driving almost entirely in town, in a 6 cylinder twin turbo diesel, then I should maybe expect to be able to get about 23-24MPG in the S5, don't you think?
I had my heart set on an S3 before this, thinking it would be nice to have a small car for a change, but then realised I just can't live with a hatchback (especially the S3, which felt extremely tinny and plastic-y), so then I went all the way to the top and considered an RS6, but on an extended test drive for two days, I found it way too big to use sensibly in London day-to-day. Now I'm on the S5, which seems to tick a lot of requirements I have in a car. And it's got bloody massaging seats!
I want to switch to petrol, because I'm worried about the measures against diesel coming into play in the capital, but at the moment, from a lease perspective, I can get a standard S5 for about 320 a month ex-VAT (800 less than the RS6), and there isn't a single comparable car from BMW or Mercedes that comes close to offering the amount of things as standard, or the performance, in one package. It just seems like an absolute bargain, and it looks gorgeous in person. No photo I've seen does it justice at all.
My main turn off of the RS6 was that it was just absolutely huge (I didn't check the MPG). It was like steering a giant sexy barge. When I looked at the dealership's S5, their test car was sitting at 6.9mpg, which was terrifying. I generally put 20 quid at a time in my car just because I can't stand waiting at pumps, and on that basis, every time I put 20 quid in my BMW, I'd be putting 80 in the S5.
That can't be right, surely?
jpgodwin said:
VEA said:
If you're worrying about in town mpg from a car like this I'd suggest it's not the one for you.
That's an incredibly condescending and snooty reply to make to someone asking a completely uncontroversial question. 
In answer to your question, you're getting 33mpg from your 430d which is 37% less than what Parkers lists as it's fuel economy - if you manage 37% less than what Parkers lists for the S5 (38mpg), you'll be on 24mpg.
Mostly only with people who defend other people's obnoxious behaviour, as you did, by telling me the other Kevs condescending, smug attitude was apparently "completely fair". Given that you addressed that before your utterly fatuous and unreliable cost breakdown, it's quite clear what your main intention was.
I can tell I'm going to attract all of the car t
ts in a second who've been posting here for decades, and aren't self-aware enough to realise they hate every second they waste here.
Any London-based S5 owners, please let me know what your MPG is. It's a really simple question that has apparently riled up three people so far.
I can tell I'm going to attract all of the car t
ts in a second who've been posting here for decades, and aren't self-aware enough to realise they hate every second they waste here.Any London-based S5 owners, please let me know what your MPG is. It's a really simple question that has apparently riled up three people so far.
Edited by jpgodwin on Tuesday 3rd October 17:52
I haven't experienced the B9 platform, but they always claim efficiency gains from one gen to another.
I think the only way of getting high twenties and beyond - on a run, would be to drive in a manner so boring, it would make you want to stick pins in your eyes.
Driving within London, very low twenties or teens only I think. Personally, I have never looked at the economy - just driven them. Economy will disappoint.
I think the only way of getting high twenties and beyond - on a run, would be to drive in a manner so boring, it would make you want to stick pins in your eyes.
Driving within London, very low twenties or teens only I think. Personally, I have never looked at the economy - just driven them. Economy will disappoint.
OK, you've told me very low twenties is a possibility. That counts as a glimmer of hope in my book!
You're right, though, it's a poor way to treat the car if I'm constantly staring at the trip computer looking at how much cash I'm burning. Funny thing is that I didn't care about the MPG when I was considering the RS6 - for some reason, though, it mattered to me in the S5. Weird.
Thanks for responding, Paul, really appreciate it.
You're right, though, it's a poor way to treat the car if I'm constantly staring at the trip computer looking at how much cash I'm burning. Funny thing is that I didn't care about the MPG when I was considering the RS6 - for some reason, though, it mattered to me in the S5. Weird.
Thanks for responding, Paul, really appreciate it.
My B9 S4 saw 37mpg on a run from Bristol to Hertfordshire recently with mixed driving and some of that we'll above the motorway speed limit and the car was ram packed with luggage plus 2 adults and a toddler.
Town driving mpg will be low 20s but then that's not two bad as it meant long-term albeit 3 week mpg is still in the high 20s early 30s which I find perfectly acceptable.
Town driving mpg will be low 20s but then that's not two bad as it meant long-term albeit 3 week mpg is still in the high 20s early 30s which I find perfectly acceptable.
Haven't yet taken mine into London (I have that pleasure next weekend) but have driven it in comparable city traffic on several occasions and I'm afraid I'd be staggered if you managed 24-26mpg. I'd assume mid to high teens if I were you, depending on your driving style... it's super crap for that kind of journey. Pretty good on long runs at a sensible pace though, not that that's much consolation if you're stuck in London.
To be honest, if you're really want 24mpg+ I'd agree with the the previous poster and suggest that the S5, while a great car, isn't going to be a good choice. That said, if you were considering an RS6 you could do 10k miles a year in 1st gear in the the S5 and it would still be a cheaper option overall.
To be honest, if you're really want 24mpg+ I'd agree with the the previous poster and suggest that the S5, while a great car, isn't going to be a good choice. That said, if you were considering an RS6 you could do 10k miles a year in 1st gear in the the S5 and it would still be a cheaper option overall.
Why do people think lease deals are ever a bargain. It's like a casino, the odds are always stacked in the favour of the dealer.
Why is MPG even a concern if you were considering £1200pm on an RS6? I too live in London, Putney. MPG is almost irrelevant to me as I do so few miles a year, maybe 6000 max. Saving £500 on fuel in a year to have a 40mpg car vs a 20mpg car isn't really going to sway me from say an M5 to a 320d for obvious reasons. I suspect your mileage is similar.
Just get the car you want and turn off the MPG display.
It is always better to buy your car outright rather than lease/finance, if you have the cash. Something I've notice though is you can take loans out now at 3%, stick your cash in something like Ratesetter at 6% and you're making 3% while benefiting from the time value of money by spreading it over a 3-5 year period. With the interest you'll make, you can find the additional fuel bill.
Why is MPG even a concern if you were considering £1200pm on an RS6? I too live in London, Putney. MPG is almost irrelevant to me as I do so few miles a year, maybe 6000 max. Saving £500 on fuel in a year to have a 40mpg car vs a 20mpg car isn't really going to sway me from say an M5 to a 320d for obvious reasons. I suspect your mileage is similar.
Just get the car you want and turn off the MPG display.
It is always better to buy your car outright rather than lease/finance, if you have the cash. Something I've notice though is you can take loans out now at 3%, stick your cash in something like Ratesetter at 6% and you're making 3% while benefiting from the time value of money by spreading it over a 3-5 year period. With the interest you'll make, you can find the additional fuel bill.
Edited by R8VBV on Wednesday 4th October 08:55
R8VBV said:
Why do people think lease deals are ever a bargain. It's like a casino, the odds are always stacked in the favour of the dealer.
Why is MPG even a concern if you were considering £1200pm on an RS6? I too live in London, Putney. MPG is almost irrelevant to me as I do so few miles a year, maybe 6000 max. Saving £500 on fuel in a year to have a 40mpg car vs a 20mpg car isn't really going to sway me from say an M5 to a 320d for obvious reasons. I suspect your mileage is similar.
Just get the car you want and turn off the MPG display.
It is always better to buy your car outright rather than lease/finance, if you have the cash. Something I've notice though is you can take loans out now at 3%, stick your cash in something like Ratesetter at 6% and you're making 3% while benefiting from the time value of money by spreading it over a 3-5 year period. With the interest you'll make, you can find the additional fuel bill.
Do you live in London and do you own a 2017 S5?Why is MPG even a concern if you were considering £1200pm on an RS6? I too live in London, Putney. MPG is almost irrelevant to me as I do so few miles a year, maybe 6000 max. Saving £500 on fuel in a year to have a 40mpg car vs a 20mpg car isn't really going to sway me from say an M5 to a 320d for obvious reasons. I suspect your mileage is similar.
Just get the car you want and turn off the MPG display.
It is always better to buy your car outright rather than lease/finance, if you have the cash. Something I've notice though is you can take loans out now at 3%, stick your cash in something like Ratesetter at 6% and you're making 3% while benefiting from the time value of money by spreading it over a 3-5 year period. With the interest you'll make, you can find the additional fuel bill.
Edited by R8VBV on Wednesday 4th October 08:55
Bluesmurff09 said:
My B9 S4 saw 37mpg on a run from Bristol to Hertfordshire recently with mixed driving and some of that we'll above the motorway speed limit and the car was ram packed with luggage plus 2 adults and a toddler.
Town driving mpg will be low 20s but then that's not two bad as it meant long-term albeit 3 week mpg is still in the high 20s early 30s which I find perfectly acceptable.
That's pretty uplifting, cheers mate!Town driving mpg will be low 20s but then that's not two bad as it meant long-term albeit 3 week mpg is still in the high 20s early 30s which I find perfectly acceptable.
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