Struggle falling to sleep
Struggle falling to sleep
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HedgeyGedgey

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1,320 posts

123 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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So its starting to really annoy me, i just can't seem to drift off to sleep. I feel very tired, and quite drained of energy but really struggle to fall sleep intially. If i didn't set an alarm I'll sleep for 14 hours+ on the weekends, its just that initial drifting off to sleep i can't grasp. Is there anything i can try? I have to be up at 7:30am for uni so not particularly early, going to bed at around 10pm but I regularly don't seem to fall asleep till 2 or 3am

Ructions

4,705 posts

150 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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Firstly turn off your computer/ipad/phone or whatever you are using to post on PH. Try some basic meditation or do some reading. Don't over think it.

Hoofy

80,017 posts

311 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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Wot 'e sed!

Get off tech from about 11pm if you have to get up at 7.30am. Whether the screen is stimulating your brain or not, all the thinking this stuff does won't help.

Do some basic breathing meditation. Listening to some chilled out tunes.

Sheepshanks

40,962 posts

148 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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This is a baby thing, but it works a treat for me.

Breath in and say in you head "in-breath". Then out and say "out-breath one".

Repeat up to ten, then start again.

If you start thinking about other things, just restart the count - don't try and remember where you were up to.

Robertj21a

18,009 posts

134 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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You've got too much on your mind. Sleep will be difficult if your brain is still active - wind down with relaxing activity, music etc well before you go to bed. Switch off computers and the like.......

StevieBee

15,309 posts

284 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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Exercise. By which I mean strenuous exercise - not just going for a walk.

If you can get into a cycle of getting home and working out combining cardo and resistance you'll find that - assuming no other residual health issues - you'll drop off within 5 mins of hitting the pillow.

Check out the P90X series or T25 or similar.

And don't eat too late into the evening. I think you should leave three hours between eating and bed time.

JulietRomeo

213 posts

176 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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This may only apply to mid-30's girthy individuals like me, try : No tea/coffee intake after 3pm, ensure thin student hall curtains aren't leaking too much light in..

Steve Campbell

2,394 posts

197 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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Things to try :

Screens.....definitely off at least 1 hr before bedtime....no phone, ipad, computer...turn it off, put them on silent or whatever
Hot bath or shower before bed
No caffeine after 5pm
Don't eat late (2 hours at least before bed)
Hot milky drink before bedtime, no caffeine
No TV ...1 hr before bed. eg hot bath shower, then read a book for relaxation (not Uni stuff !)

Whatever you find works or partially works, build it into a routine

Krise

646 posts

239 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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I have struggled with sleep since my mid teens, I’m 38 now and I can honsestly say I have never had a decent nights sleep.

I have tried everything and still struggled until I tried something radical a couple of weeks ago.....Hypnotherapy !

I was quite sceptical at first as it was something the missus arranged for me, to be honest I thought it was a bit mumbo jumbo and and really didn’t think it would achieve anything.

So after a session, and some sleep motivation that the hypnotherapist recorded for me that I have to listen to every night I am now out for the count within 2/3 mins and stay asleep till I naturally wake, I feel refreshed and rested for the first time in 20 odd years !

HedgeyGedgey

Original Poster:

1,320 posts

123 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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Thanks for the replies guys, will try them all. The suggestions about coffee, i drink a lot of coffee maybe 6 or 7 cups a day. That could be why I'm too active at 11pm haha

geeks

11,618 posts

168 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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I have issues with sleep as well.

Sometimes issues dropping off, other times, I will drop off and then say 30 minutes later I am awake again and struggling to drop off.

I use the breathing counting thing another poster mentioned earlier that sometimes helps, other times it doesn't. I never feel any worse off for a short amount of sleep bar the first 5 minutes of the day, I guess I am just used to it now!

tenohfive

6,276 posts

211 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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Caffeine sticks around for about 4 hours, so my last cuppa is when I get home from work.

I think just having some sort of wind down routine helps. Reading, music, whatever works. But keep the lighting low.

The screen thing is a good shout although not an issue personally - the number of times I've woken myself up by dropping a phone or tablet on my head (whilst reading on said device) is pretty significant. I'll have the Kindle app on black background though, in a dark room.

There are some interesting tips on here (some of which have already been mentioned.)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07knqxy

The biggest thing I'd say though is not to worry about it. You can function on very little sleep and your body will catch up when it can. So if you're not falling asleep, it's no biggy - you've got more free time. The worst thing you can do is start obsessing over the fact that you're still awake because that 'I need to SLEEP' mentality is the most effective way of keeping yourself awake. You'll survive on a bad nights sleep so there's no point worrying about it.

C0ffin D0dger

3,440 posts

174 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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Have a w*nk or better still a vigorous nookie session with a consenting female (or male that's your thing). If you're a student then shouldn't have too much trouble finding a willing partner biggrin

Hoofy

80,017 posts

311 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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HedgeyGedgey said:
The suggestions about coffee, i drink a lot of coffee maybe 6 or 7 cups a day.
That is quite a lot!

Robertj21a

18,009 posts

134 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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Hoofy said:
That is quite a lot!
Yes, I begin to notice it affects me after 2-3 ( double shot). I never have coffee after 4pm.

sinbaddio

2,844 posts

205 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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All been mentioned above, but exercise is key for me. For the last few months I'v played squash for an hour after work every night.

I sleep like a log! Squash may not be your bag but there's plenty of exercise you can do from your own home that will have the same effect.

Good luck!

RizzoTheRat

28,854 posts

221 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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Hoofy said:
HedgeyGedgey said:
The suggestions about coffee, i drink a lot of coffee maybe 6 or 7 cups a day.
That is quite a lot!
Agreed. I limit myself to 2 or 3 cups a day these days. Try drinking decaf. Clearly I'm getting old but a hot chocolate with a shot of whisky in it is a nice evening drink an hour or 2 before bed

Hoofy

80,017 posts

311 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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RizzoTheRat said:
a hot chocolate with a shot of whisky
Well, I know what I'm drinking this evening!

HedgeyGedgey

Original Poster:

1,320 posts

123 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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Hoofy said:
RizzoTheRat said:
a hot chocolate with a shot of whisky
Well, I know what I'm drinking this evening!
Agree that does sound very interesting!!!

RizzoTheRat

28,854 posts

221 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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Don't waste the good stuff on it though I tried it after winning a bottle of bells in a raffle :-D