mmmm So Delicious!
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That's UK cheap meat industry for you..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvtVkNofcq8
total animal abuse is one thing,tough luck ,however imagine putting all those disease ridden SICK corpses which are only kept alive by antibiotics and questionable ''quality'' feed which makes half of them look they are already dead. Fuuk...What have I done all these years.. Yet it's all nicely packaged in store and everyone is happily eating this stuff.
Seems totally healthy and the best food one could ever eat for sure.
You can skip the gore parts,however just look at the state of them and their ''quality'', once they are cut up and packaged they all look the same really and you couldn't tell.
& YES those are UK Farms!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvtVkNofcq8
total animal abuse is one thing,tough luck ,however imagine putting all those disease ridden SICK corpses which are only kept alive by antibiotics and questionable ''quality'' feed which makes half of them look they are already dead. Fuuk...What have I done all these years.. Yet it's all nicely packaged in store and everyone is happily eating this stuff.
Seems totally healthy and the best food one could ever eat for sure.
You can skip the gore parts,however just look at the state of them and their ''quality'', once they are cut up and packaged they all look the same really and you couldn't tell.
& YES those are UK Farms!
Edited by bagusbagus on Friday 6th October 19:13
Some pictures of diseased pigs. Presumably they are now in the food chain? Is there evidence of this?
I presume there is some kind law against this and therefore, if there is evidence there will be a conviction, no?
I don't get where people get upset about the ethical treatment of animals? We are animals too. Animals which sit at the top of the food chain! Do these people complain about the unethical means a lion despatches a wildebeest or how a great white despatches a seal? Nope.
If it were the case that this type of scaremongery was just to turn others away from meat as some form of self validation of their own choices, it would be most sad.
I presume there is some kind law against this and therefore, if there is evidence there will be a conviction, no?
I don't get where people get upset about the ethical treatment of animals? We are animals too. Animals which sit at the top of the food chain! Do these people complain about the unethical means a lion despatches a wildebeest or how a great white despatches a seal? Nope.
If it were the case that this type of scaremongery was just to turn others away from meat as some form of self validation of their own choices, it would be most sad.
My wife used to work at an abattoir doing health inspections etc while she was doing her EHO training. I seem to recall her saying there was also a vet on site too along side full time EHO.
They monitor the animals on arrival, during slaughter and also inspect the meat after its been butchered and stamped. If the SHTF its their behind on the line.
They monitor the animals on arrival, during slaughter and also inspect the meat after its been butchered and stamped. If the SHTF its their behind on the line.
red_slr said:
My wife used to work at an abattoir doing health inspections etc while she was doing her EHO training. I seem to recall her saying there was also a vet on site too along side full time EHO.
They monitor the animals on arrival, during slaughter and also inspect the meat after its been butchered and stamped. If the SHTF its their behind on the line.
I wonder where all this video was filmed then, Eastern Europe? It has names and dates on. They monitor the animals on arrival, during slaughter and also inspect the meat after its been butchered and stamped. If the SHTF its their behind on the line.
It seems weird how certain animals, like dogs, have a god-like status and have to be treated like royalty, but pigs, sheep, cows are not even counted as hardly existing as a life form. Shout at your dog and some do-gooder will accuse you of giving it life long psyche issues.
Edited by King Herald on Friday 6th October 22:39
King Herald said:
I wonder where all this video was filmed then, Eastern Europe? It has names and dates on.
It seems weird how certain animals, like dogs, have a god-like status and have to be treated like royalty, but pigs, sheep, cows are not even counted as hardly existing as a life form. Shout at your dog and some do-gooder will accuse you of giving it life long psyche issues.
That'll be because dogs have been domesticated for a few thousand years, carry out working roles, etc. Not that weird really.It seems weird how certain animals, like dogs, have a god-like status and have to be treated like royalty, but pigs, sheep, cows are not even counted as hardly existing as a life form. Shout at your dog and some do-gooder will accuse you of giving it life long psyche issues.
Edited by King Herald on Friday 6th October 22:39
iphonedyou said:
That'll be because dogs have been domesticated for a few thousand years, carry out working roles, etc. Not that weird really.
So it is okay to be cruel to animals we are not friendly with? What a strange mind set. I see they eat dogs in many countries, which I have no problem with, but lots of Facebook drama and petitions demanding they stop. As long as they are not killed more cruelly or painfully that necessary I see no problem eating any animal.
Bacon tastes good, pork chops taste good.....mmmm
We had dog in China and South Korea - I say we; I did, the Mrs however was disgusted at eating Fido although she will happily eat pork, beef, chicken, turkey, fish, kangaroo, etc....
There’s all sorts of horror stories about abbotoirs etc... fruitarians say the same about how apples are torn from trees when living and should only be eaten once fallen naturally - cobbler I say
There’s all sorts of horror stories about abbotoirs etc... fruitarians say the same about how apples are torn from trees when living and should only be eaten once fallen naturally - cobbler I say
Is that where monkfish are killed before being sent to the friary? bagusbagus said:
That's UK cheap meat industry for you..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvtVkNofcq8
total animal abuse is one thing,tough luck ,however imagine putting all those disease ridden SICK corpses which are only kept alive by antibiotics and questionable ''quality'' feed which makes half of them look they are already dead.
Didn't watch it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvtVkNofcq8
total animal abuse is one thing,tough luck ,however imagine putting all those disease ridden SICK corpses which are only kept alive by antibiotics and questionable ''quality'' feed which makes half of them look they are already dead.
Edited by bagusbagus on Friday 6th October 19:13
A few points.
Antibiotics have a withdrawl period before the animal or product is allowed into the human food chain. This has been the case for decades. I know that milk is tested every day. Send milk to a dairy with antibiotics in and expect a big bill. It does happen by accident and there are ways the industry deals with it safely. It can ruin a silo of milk and the producer with get billed for that. Antibiotics are expensive and farmers prefer not to have to use them in the first place and they also know that their miss use builds up antibiotic resistance in their animals and their ultimate customers.
Having been brough up on a dairy farm and worked on farms all of my life I can catagorically state that the health of of the animal or crop that you are producing is number one, top priority. Think of the animals as being treated as top althletes and you're not far wrong. If you send a sick animal to market or to slaughter expect a vist from people who will look at every last aspect of your farming operation. It is not tolorated and hasn't been for years.
I would be interested to know about the "questionable feed". Farm animals are certainly fed a lot of bi-products from the human food chain. Brewers grains are the bi product of beer production and cattle to well on them. Sugar beet pulp is the bi product of sugar refining and likewise, cattle like them. Maize gluten is what is left after cornfalke have been made and are a good feed for cows too.
We grow wheat for milling. It needs to be of a certain protien and hagberg to make good flour. Any that doesn't make the grade will usually go for feed, but that doesn't make it a poor animal feed. and it certainly is clean, dru, fresh and good quality, just won't make flour. There are pently of feed only varities of wheat that just are high yielding at the expense of hagberg and protien.
The main issue is that there is no pleasing animal rights people. No matter what the industry does it will never be good enough. If you go on to any of the farming forums you will see that farmers can hugely about their animals, crops and land at the expense of their own and families well being. It is all they think about, for better or for worse. A friend of mine has a cow that produced him 100 tonnes of milk. He said she will never leave his farm. When she no longer gives him any milk, she;ll just run with her herd mates untill she dies then will be buried in the garden with honours.
Willy Nilly said:
Having been brough up on a dairy farm and worked on farms all of my life I can catagorically state that the health of of the animal or crop that you are producing is number one, top priority. Think of the animals as being treated as top althletes and you're not far wrong. If you send a sick animal to market or to slaughter expect a vist from people who will look at every last aspect of your farming operation. It is not tolorated and hasn't been for years.
I would like to know where some of the horrendous footage came from, and though it had names and dates, how true were they? It obviously exists, somewhere.It wasn’t so long ago that the USA recommended minimum intake of Scottish salmon because of the horrendous state of salmon farms. Whether that was exaggeration, paranoia, or must the right pockets not being lined, I don’t know, but they did show some horrendous footage of the interior of salmon farms and the mess therein.
King Herald said:
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It wasn’t so long ago that the USA recommended minimum intake of Scottish salmon because of the horrendous state of salmon farms. Whether that was exaggeration, paranoia, or must the right pockets not being lined, I don’t know, but they did show some horrendous footage of the interior of salmon farms and the mess therein.
I won't touch Scottish salmon. Haven't done for years.It wasn’t so long ago that the USA recommended minimum intake of Scottish salmon because of the horrendous state of salmon farms. Whether that was exaggeration, paranoia, or must the right pockets not being lined, I don’t know, but they did show some horrendous footage of the interior of salmon farms and the mess therein.
Salmon fishing / canning were big industries where I grew up, as was sport fishing for salmon and cod (not much 'sport' in catching cod really).
Scottish salmon from farms tastes nothing like wild salmon. Fed on pellets made from gawd knows what, and then fed a diet of red food dye before 'harvesting'.
One may as well dine on sculpted pink tofu.
Fist comment from PETA UK "Footage from 100 farms and abatoirs shows that cruelty to animals on UK farms is the rule, not the exception."
Anyone who has spent anytime around farming in the UK knows how absurd that statment is, not only that, they themselves know that as well. So the question is, why are they making such ludicrous and provably false statements?. More $$$ for them I'd imagine, it's quite clear they don't care about animals.
These people really are just ignorant morons.
Case in point
Anyone who has spent anytime around farming in the UK knows how absurd that statment is, not only that, they themselves know that as well. So the question is, why are they making such ludicrous and provably false statements?. More $$$ for them I'd imagine, it's quite clear they don't care about animals.
These people really are just ignorant morons.
Case in point
King Herald said:
Wow, I dread to think how sheep got by for years before those friendly farmers started to help them out by shearing them regularly. Same with those cows, with huge udders, the relief they must have felt when we started emptying that cow juice out.
Funnily enough wild animals were able to manage that themselves before we started domesticating them and breeding in traits so they produced more of what we were using them for.Gassing Station | Food, Drink & Restaurants | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff