What is the purpose of the white line?
What is the purpose of the white line?
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Upatdawn

Original Poster:

2,202 posts

178 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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I refer to the short white line on the left of the carriageway over the speed hump.

there is a cycle path to the left just out of sight



covboy

2,593 posts

204 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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Indicating the drive on the left ?

Pica-Pica

16,625 posts

114 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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Highway Code, road markings page 40:

"Length of road to be kept clear of stationary vehicles, at entrance to off-street premises, or where the kerb is dropped to provide a convenient crossing place for pedestrians."

I see there are yellow zig zag lines, so a school near, and there seems to be a sign on the road hump, school sign?

Edited by Pica-Pica on Sunday 8th October 20:44

tigger1

8,476 posts

251 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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I'm still curious about the solid line in the middle of the hump - whasthafor?


Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

290 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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Sometimes I come across lengthy sections of white lines that seem to be there just to mark the edge of the road. They do discourage stopping but would it be illegal to stop?

littleredrooster

6,397 posts

226 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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Boosted LS1 said:
Sometimes I come across lengthy sections of white lines that seem to be there just to mark the edge of the road. They do discourage stopping but would it be illegal to stop?
In rural areas, they indicate soft verges IIRC

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

138 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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littleredrooster said:
In rural areas, they indicate soft verges IIRC
Who told you that? Some prankster?

Upatdawn

Original Poster:

2,202 posts

178 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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so avoid parking on the white line BUT..... if my wheel isnt on it but my rear overhang is over it is that good/bad/naughty?


had a run in with a lollipop man who uses the speed hump as a crossing point and almost crapped himself when i got out the car to see WTF he was on about, his lolly hit my car door too cos he wouldnt let me out the car....



Edited by Upatdawn on Monday 9th October 11:08

hman

7,497 posts

224 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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just be considerate and don't park there.

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

138 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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Upatdawn said:
so avoid parking on the white line BUT..... if my wheel isnt on it but my rear overhang is over it is that good/bad/naughty?


had a run in with a lollipop man who uses the speed hump as a crossing point and almost crapped himself when i got out the car to see WTF he was on about, his lolly hit my car door too cos he wouldnt let me out the car....



Edited by Upatdawn on Monday 9th October 11:08
That is very bad in so many ways

Swervin_Mervin

5,001 posts

268 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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It's a standard marking for a road hump. You're supposed to drive between the white lines, you may be amazed to know

Dogwatch

6,383 posts

252 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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Upatdawn said:
so avoid parking on the white line BUT..... if my wheel isnt on it but my rear overhang is over it is that good/bad/naughty?

had a run in with a lollipop man who uses the speed hump as a crossing point and almost crapped himself when i got out the car to see WTF he was on about, his lolly hit my car door too cos he wouldnt let me out the car....

Edited by Upatdawn on Monday 9th October 11:08
If you parked on the zig-zags, yes you were in the wrong (except during August). If you were wholly or partly on the white line he was out of order but, on the other hand, was it really a good place to park at chucking-out time anyway?

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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Upatdawn said:
so avoid parking on the white line BUT..... if my wheel isnt on it but my rear overhang is over it is that good/bad/naughty?
Parking is measured from overhangs, not from wheel touchdown. So in your case above, naughty.

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

216 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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PAULJ5555

3,554 posts

206 months

Tuesday 10th October 2017
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If you parked there how are cyclists supposed to come racing out of the lane and onto the road, you will force them to slow down even stop and have to check the road is clear first.

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

138 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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littleredrooster said:
In rural areas, they indicate soft verges IIRC
No. You do not remember correctly

They usually have a sign saying "Caution. Soft verges"

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

290 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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And when they don't have a sign? Can you park up?

littleredrooster

6,397 posts

226 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
littleredrooster said:
In rural areas, they indicate soft verges IIRC
No. You do not remember correctly

They usually have a sign saying "Caution. Soft verges"
Short memory.

You, not me, BTW - you already shot me down once for that post; no need to be belligerent.

yellowjack

18,484 posts

196 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Quite often those unbroken long white lines at the edge of the carriageway are just that. "Edge Of Carriageway Lines".

Eversley has them, designed, if I'm correctly informed, to psychologically persuade drivers that the road is narrower than it really is, and to further persuade drivers to stick to the 30 mph speed limit.

I've had one driver go nuts at me over them when I've been cycling there.

Him: "Get in the cycle lane!"
Me: "What cycle lane?"
Him: [pointing at the white line to my left] "That fking cycle lane you tt."
Me: "It's not a fking cycle lane. Where did you get your driving licence? From a Christmas cracker?"
Him: "mumble, mumble, chunter, tt, fking chunter, mumble mumble." This must have been 'thinking time' because his next line was a classic. "You're holding up the fking traffic you tt!"
Me: "The road is plenty wide enough, you didn't need to slow down for a chat. YOU are the one who is holding up traffic, now do one..."

I'm not going to be cycling the wrong side of a solid white line for anyone, because I've been told about a bajillion times right here on PH that the rules of the road apply as much to me on my bicycle as they do to car drivers. Yet it seems that it's when I ride properly, following the law, and Highway Code advice, that I get the most problems with idiot drivers who want me to ride on the footway (an offence) or to ride the wrong side of lane marking lines simply because I'm in their way. Just as most/some/all/no (*delete according to your particular bias on the subject) drivers are hypocritical about when they should be obeying the rules/law themselves, so they are equally, or more hypocritical, when it comes to which rules/laws I should obey on my bicycle...

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.3482205,-0.86839...
Completely obstructing a footway to the point where a wheelchair or pushchair couldn't pass safely, in order to fill your Chavvy face with fags/sandwiches/Coke from the shop? Driving on the footway to get the car there? Both offences, but hey? He's a driver, so it's all OK. And even if it were a cycle lane (which it isn't) then I wouldn't use it anyway, because there's no point in a cycle lane if it's being used as a car park on a daily basis.

People who park on solid white lines? Knobs.
People who park obstructing footways? Knobs
People who park over dropped kerbs put in for the specific purpose of making crossing safer and easier for the mobility impaired? Especially knobbish knobs.
People who'll argue that black is white on internet forums in order to justify their own selfish, inconsiderate behaviour? I think you get the picture by now...

Just because it isn't spelled out on signs that something shouldn't be done, doesn't make it OK to do it. Park with consideration for others, and if you can't do that right outside where you want to be, park around the corner, or around the block somewhere and walk the last bit. Or carry on being a lazy ignorant twunt and park on the carriageway (or footway) where legitimate, considerate road users are wanting to drive (or walk).

yellowjack

18,484 posts

196 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Upatdawn said:
so avoid parking on the white line BUT..... if my wheel isnt on it but my rear overhang is over it is that good/bad/naughty?


had a run in with a lollipop man who uses the speed hump as a crossing point and almost crapped himself when i got out the car to see WTF he was on about, his lolly hit my car door too cos he wouldnt let me out the car....
I'm with the School Crossing Attendant on this one, I'm afraid.

It's his DUTY to ensure the safety of children using his crossing, and to ensure that he carries out his duties safely too. So if some inconsiderate muppet decides to park so close to the crossing point that he can't properly see oncoming traffic, and more importantly, oncoming traffic can't see him very well, then it compromises the safety of EVERYONE using that crossing point.

Genuine question. Why the need to park on that specific point? Could you not achieve your objective by parking a little further away, or off around a corner, and walk to where you need to be?