'68 Beetle - Basket case...
'68 Beetle - Basket case...
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gary71

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2,037 posts

208 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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Never buy a car sight unseen with less than 5 minutes thought and a beer in your hand...

Anyway this sorry looking '68 RHD Bug is arriving in the garage on Wednesday. Pushed in of course as it doesn't have an engine.

Plan is to strip it to see what I have then make a plan. Either straight onto Ebay or crack on and make a car out of it, possibly for No.1 Son who is 17 in less than 18 months...



Anyone want some seats? These won't be staying. I'm impressed these are actually fitted into the back but why?



I know it needs a roof and heater channels, other than that I'm sure it's just fine and it will be done by Xmas...

If I make a go of it the body will come off and it will be done reasonably properly. Not perfect as it's not worth it, but a good solid driver resto is the goal.

It's way early to be thinking of the end results, but you need inspiration and somewhere here would be top end:



Or maybe something closer to what it is now:



Or more stock, but with slightly wider wheels:


Horsetan

410 posts

236 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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At least you shouldn't have much trouble finding the parts you need - it's a Beetle, and almost everything's available.

Not sure I'd put those seats in my Citroën CX; they're out of character for most cars, I think.

mattfuey

452 posts

167 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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Will follow this with interest.

Love old Beetles

Nunga

332 posts

137 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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Laughed out loud reading the first two sentences. So true. I used to hate old Beetles but, as I've gotten older and appreciated the engineering that went into cars like this, for the people as it were, I've got a soft spot for them now.

Hopefully it's not a complete shïtbox and you can make something of it. It's a shame to see these old cars scrapped (though I guess there are still plenty of salvageable Bugs around compared to say, Aston Martins or old Mercedes SLs).

herbialfa

1,489 posts

231 months

Tuesday 10th October 2017
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Whats the plans for the Samba in the background????

gary71

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2,037 posts

208 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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The car arrived first thing this morning and it's fair to say it's as bad as described...

Fuel was leaking out of the tank as the car angled coming off the truck which moved removing the tank up the job list!



Wings, fuel tank and running boards are now in the local tip and the interior comes out next and will be heading the same way.



I think the body has been welded to the pan down the underside of the heater channels so I'll need to cut full length down both sills to get the body off which is a pain.

Many of the areas that typically rust have already been repaired at least once using the normal repair panels. As they've now rotted again I'll have to do the full panel.

In some ways this is no bad thing as the work required is similar but the end result much better. Downside is the panel cost and trying to keep the car aligned properly once you've cut it up!

This is behind the front wheel and you can see the old repair:



Some dubious ARB attachments. Not sure this is standard VW.



This will be one of the hardest repairs as it will have to be fabricated from scratch: It rots on every Beetle but there are no panels available.



Next step is to buy some steel to make a body frame with casters on so I can store the floorpan underneath the lifted body. Also need the steel box to brace the body before cutting it off the floorpan.

Oh and to invest in the compressor and air tools I should have bought years ago...

MJK 24

5,676 posts

265 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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The anti roll bar clamps are Mk2 Scirocco / Mk1 Golf rears.

Good look with your project.

Horsetan

410 posts

236 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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gary71 said:
....Some dubious ARB attachments. Not sure this is standard VW.

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Wow, the corrosion on that reminds me of what you find on a sunken ship....!

jeff666

2,455 posts

220 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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The ARB mounts are standard for a ball joint beam,

Easily available from GSF, ECP etc, ref the rot at the lower corners try to get a decent cut from a decent shell it will save a lot of time in the long run.

Good luck with it.

gary71

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2,037 posts

208 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Cheers for the info. I've been on the lookout for a good roof as it needs to come off anyway. It's had sunroof welded up and skimmed with 10mm of filler that has lifted.

Unfortunately every roof that looks good for the sunroof replacement is also rotten in the back corners. No rush, so I'll keep looking as it would be good to do both jobs in one go.

CAPP0

20,833 posts

232 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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What happened to the "have a look at it, straight back on eBay" part of the plan? hehe

Horsetan

410 posts

236 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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CAPP0 said:
What happened to the "have a look at it, straight back on eBay" part of the plan? hehe
He's in too deep!

gary71

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2,037 posts

208 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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Horsetan said:
CAPP0 said:
What happened to the "have a look at it, straight back on eBay" part of the plan? hehe
He's in too deep!
He's right. There's no going back now!

gary71

Original Poster:

2,037 posts

208 months

Saturday 14th October 2017
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Productive day today:
- Interior all out and down the tip
- Doors and bonnet off
- Body trolley made and welded up

Plan for tomorrow is to take the body off the pan. I'm sure that will be really easy!

Trollied

282 posts

164 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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For some reason, I love old beetles. A customer has one stored in his garage. Looks in "perfect" condition, in the Herbie colours. I guess a recent re-spray.

Fast Bug

13,520 posts

190 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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For the roof repairs it will be much easier to get some body cuts off a scrap car

gary71

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2,037 posts

208 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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Fast Bug said:
For the roof repairs it will be much easier to get some body cuts off a scrap car
Agreed. I'm looking for one now, with a rear window included. I'm going to tackle that job first as it will be life or death for the shell. Everything else is low risk and I don't want to invest too much in panels before doing the hardest job. They made 21million of the things so there must be one non rusty roof out there somewhere!

As of Sunday afternoon body is up:



...and away:



Only a few of the bolts holding the body on came out so I ended up cutting down the pans inside the heater channels instead. It all needs replacing anyway so not the end of the world.

I going to try and unpick the roof skin, just for practice, as I'd rather leave the pillars and cantrails in place as they are good and solid. This maybe making it hard for me but I've nothing to lose as the roof is scrap anyway.

Eddieslofart

1,328 posts

112 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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Class effort right there. Good luck with it!

Horsetan

410 posts

236 months

Tuesday 17th October 2017
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Eddieslofart said:
Class effort right there. Good luck with it!
Agreed. Fascinating dissection there.

I particularly like the little piles of dust and debris on the floor....

gary71

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2,037 posts

208 months

Wednesday 18th October 2017
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Horsetan said:
I particularly like the little piles of dust and debris on the floor....
The pile you can see is only one of the many... A broom is the most used tool in this job so far! You just look at it and it sheds pile of rust.