Ferrari SUV confirmed
Ferrari SUV confirmed
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F355GTS

Original Poster:

3,831 posts

275 months

Tuesday 10th October 2017
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Is it time to leave the brand I wonder

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/ferrar...

FerdiZ28

1,355 posts

154 months

Tuesday 10th October 2017
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Why on earth would you leave the brand? Just don’t buy that one if you don’t like it.

Looks pretty epic to me.

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

190 months

Tuesday 10th October 2017
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Not a fan of so called fast SUV's. Porsche Cayanne being a prime example but can see why Ferrari would want to enter a new for them and big market.
Some people will buy anything with a Ferrari badge on it

tomtom

4,241 posts

250 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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I'm sure I read an interview with him recently, in one of the car mags' 70th anniversary specials, explaining why Ferrari would never make an SUV.

Plus ca change!

edit: Having actually read the Autocar article, it seems to be pretty sensationalist in their usual way.

"Marchionne has previously fuelled speculation by announcing that the Italian supercar maker will "reinvent the concept of a vehicle that has some utilitarian features""

So, like, 4WD for example? And a decent boot? scratchchin


Edited by tomtom on Thursday 12th October 08:42

Camlet

1,132 posts

169 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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I do not believe Ferrari will produce an SUV, even Cayenne like.

First, it's a crowded market and priced 50% less than Ferrari would demand (Rolls Royce plays to a different segment).

Second, Ferrari knows they build sportscars, not SUVs.

Before people scream LussoT, I took one around Millbrook and it blew me away with its sportscar capability. Yes, the LussoT.

Anyone who has done the Millbrook alpine course in anger will understand what I mean (plus I took her to 175mph from a standing start and slammed on the brake with only my thumb and forefinger of both hands holding the steering wheel. The LussoT didn't blink).

If Ferrari build something to rival the SUV segment it will be a sportscar first and foremost.





anonymous-user

74 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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With an SUV, brand perception would rapidly drop to Porsche at best.












Helicopter123

8,831 posts

176 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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Posters who appreciate the heritage of Ferrari will be aware that the road cars are sold solely to finance the racing side of the business. Knocking out a highly profitable SUV fits well with this model.

jakesmith

9,488 posts

191 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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Bo_apex said:
With an SUV, brand perception would rapidly drop to Porsche at best.
Has Porsche brand perception got a problem?

CooperS

4,573 posts

239 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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Helicopter123 said:
Posters who appreciate the heritage of Ferrari will be aware that the road cars are sold solely to finance the racing side of the business. Knocking out a highly profitable SUV fits well with this model.
Is this really true?

I would have thought the drive to push bigger production volumes by entering a new market is primarily for share holder benefit... Very little to do with racing... Much like the flogging of the brand across everything from baseball caps to branded push bikes..

Yipper

5,964 posts

110 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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Yes, the new SUV is to keep the Ferrari share price ticking up on Wall Street well into the 2020s. The CEO can't sit in front of a bunch of 28yo banking analysts every quarter and tell them he's not doing anything new. They are a business -- which is fair enough.

bordseye

2,208 posts

212 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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jakesmith said:
Has Porsche brand perception got a problem?
I would have said so

jakesmith

9,488 posts

191 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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bordseye said:
I would have said so
Oh. Better stick with the Smart Roadster then smile


CooperS

4,573 posts

239 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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bordseye said:
jakesmith said:
Has Porsche brand perception got a problem?
I would have said so
Honestly what make you suggest Porsche have a problem.

red_duke

815 posts

201 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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CooperS said:
Honestly what make you suggest Porsche have a problem.
1. Platform sharing with other brands in the VW family.

2. Crappy 4 pot turbo engines

3. The Porsche Cayenne

4. Policy of "making 1 less car than the market will bear"

5. The Porsche Macan

6. Ditching Le Mans for Formula E.

Need I go on?

dang2407

496 posts

128 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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Camlet said:
...I took her to 175mph from a standing start and slammed on the brake with only my thumb and forefinger of both hands holding the steering wheel. The LussoT didn't blink...

Computer-driven cars - great....

Camlet

1,132 posts

169 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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dang2407 said:
Camlet said:
...I took her to 175mph from a standing start and slammed on the brake with only my thumb and forefinger of both hands holding the steering wheel. The LussoT didn't blink...

Computer-driven cars - great....
Well, felt damn good to me; I was seriously crapping myself as my foot slammed on the brake. Doubt I'd repeat the same in an F40 wink

The Surveyor

7,617 posts

257 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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Helicopter123 said:
Posters who appreciate the heritage of Ferrari will be aware that the road cars are sold solely to finance the racing side of the business. Knocking out a highly profitable SUV fits well with this model.
The Fiat parent group already has decent sporting SUV's with Maserati and recently Alfa badges on it, there is just no need to water down the Ferrari brand by chasing sales in the SUV market IMHO

R8Steve

4,150 posts

195 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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They were halfway there with the FF anyway, i don't think an SUV will do any harm to the brand. Lamborghini done it 30 odd years ago.

The Surveyor

7,617 posts

257 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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R8Steve said:
......... Lamborghini done it 30 odd years ago.
and never did it again!

Behemoth

2,105 posts

151 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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I've a foot in both camps as an owner of an older Ferrari and a Cayenne. I love my carb Ferrari, but this needs to happen.

There was a time when Enzo said the horse must always pull the chariot ffs. Quaint & vehicles from that era are fantastic, but move on. The Cayenne is a tour de force. It's a technical marvel. Ferrari should take up the challenge.

I look forwards to an all electric Ferrari, too. Decade by decade, consumer demands push on. If you're left behind for too long, you become obsolete. And believe me, there are plenty of obsolete high end brands that were once at the cutting edge of luxury and technology and are now long forgotten save for a handful of enthusiasts.