997.1 GT3 Club Sport
Discussion
As a few of you may well know, I've been faffing, procrastinating and generally dithering carefully deliberating the switch from 996tt to "a GT3" for some time now. Well, I've finally gone and done it. The finance company are proud owners of a very nice 997.1 GT3 Club Sport and have allowed me to rent a seat in it. Collected yesterday.
Much as I will miss my 996tt - I was very attached to that car - I'm absolutely thrilled by the replacement.
The only thing I need to attend to, before booking a few track days next year, are the brakes; currently on OEM PCCBs, and I know I will be eating bread and dripping in a house warmed only by the pilot light on the boiler if I try to track them. So what's the verdict; do I swap for Alcon steel discs or go for some non-OEM Surface Transform ones?
Much as I will miss my 996tt - I was very attached to that car - I'm absolutely thrilled by the replacement.
The only thing I need to attend to, before booking a few track days next year, are the brakes; currently on OEM PCCBs, and I know I will be eating bread and dripping in a house warmed only by the pilot light on the boiler if I try to track them. So what's the verdict; do I swap for Alcon steel discs or go for some non-OEM Surface Transform ones?
Digga said:
No it's black. 4 previous owners - at least one of them likely to be known/on here I would guess too. For obvious reasons, I would not name names and I don;t know forum aliases.
I need to dig my lycra out and pay you a visit!!Edited by Digga on Wednesday 11th October 12:28
RevsPerMinute said:
Digga said:
No it's black. 4 previous owners - at least one of them likely to be known/on here I would guess too. For obvious reasons, I would not name names and I don;t know forum aliases.
I need to dig my lycra out and pay you a visit!!Edited by Digga on Wednesday 11th October 12:28
Congratulations! Car looks gorgeous 
It looks like you bought it from JZM so if I were you the first thing I would do is leave it there and ask them to rebuild the LSD with motorsport plates with a 60/40 ramp.
Next, get the rear ducts from the 997.2 RS installed to cool the rear brakes.
Both of these mods are suggested because if you take the car on track, the rear brakes are used as a crude LSD and are constantly used to get the car into, through and out of corners. This causes excess heat and wear on the rear brakes.
As for the PCCB's, if you are tracking the car then take them off, wrap them up in cotton wool and replace with Alcons
If you are using the car just for road use then they are brilliant.
Only thing I would watch out for is pad wear and its recommended to replace the pads at 50% worn (reduces hear transfer and lowers the possibility of the retaining pins within the pad scoring the disc when they get too low)
Anyway, this advice may be right or wrong or a waste of money and time but thats what I have done
It looks like you bought it from JZM so if I were you the first thing I would do is leave it there and ask them to rebuild the LSD with motorsport plates with a 60/40 ramp.
Next, get the rear ducts from the 997.2 RS installed to cool the rear brakes.
Both of these mods are suggested because if you take the car on track, the rear brakes are used as a crude LSD and are constantly used to get the car into, through and out of corners. This causes excess heat and wear on the rear brakes.
As for the PCCB's, if you are tracking the car then take them off, wrap them up in cotton wool and replace with Alcons
If you are using the car just for road use then they are brilliant. Only thing I would watch out for is pad wear and its recommended to replace the pads at 50% worn (reduces hear transfer and lowers the possibility of the retaining pins within the pad scoring the disc when they get too low)
Anyway, this advice may be right or wrong or a waste of money and time but thats what I have done
Thanks for advice. Yes, JZM. Excellent buying experience, looked after well by Rob. Even the necessary, very rigorous (they know their cars and the market well), 3-way tag-team of Rob, Steve and Russ negotiating the p/ex was as painless as it could possibly be, given the circumstances! There are other firms - 911V and RPM with similarly good reputaitons, but none with the current selection of GT cars. Incredible stock list.
Looking underneath the car before I bought it (because I'm awkward like that) it does appear to have the underfloor rear ducts, like the 997.2 GT3 they had up on the ramps in the showroom. I'm guessing those are the ones you mean? I've seen various advice to switch off TC on track, to stop the rear brakes being cooked.
Alcon looks like a sensible, affordable choice. Surface Transform discs apparently work well, but there's little to choose in price between those and OEM carbon. Have heard plenty about the diff, so will consider that, once the pressing issue of brakes is sorted.
Looking underneath the car before I bought it (because I'm awkward like that) it does appear to have the underfloor rear ducts, like the 997.2 GT3 they had up on the ramps in the showroom. I'm guessing those are the ones you mean? I've seen various advice to switch off TC on track, to stop the rear brakes being cooked.
Alcon looks like a sensible, affordable choice. Surface Transform discs apparently work well, but there's little to choose in price between those and OEM carbon. Have heard plenty about the diff, so will consider that, once the pressing issue of brakes is sorted.
Edited by Digga on Wednesday 11th October 16:42
Yep, they are the ones. They look like flattened squared-off cones.
Yeah I was told to never use TC on track (with the 997.1 GT3 TC off is OFF) but on the road with the TC on, the rear brakes are used instead of the LSD. Get the LSD rebuilt and the car is transformed on and off track!
Will you be using the car as a track toy or for road use? Either way, I cant fault your choice.....but then I am biased
Yeah I was told to never use TC on track (with the 997.1 GT3 TC off is OFF) but on the road with the TC on, the rear brakes are used instead of the LSD. Get the LSD rebuilt and the car is transformed on and off track!
Will you be using the car as a track toy or for road use? Either way, I cant fault your choice.....but then I am biased
v8ksn said:
Yep, they are the ones. They look like flattened squared-off cones.
Yeah I was told to never use TC on track (with the 997.1 GT3 TC off is OFF) but on the road with the TC on, the rear brakes are used instead of the LSD. Get the LSD rebuilt and the car is transformed on and off track!
Will you be using the car as a track toy or for road use? Either way, I cant fault your choice.....but then I am biased
Will definitely start to look into diff.Yeah I was told to never use TC on track (with the 997.1 GT3 TC off is OFF) but on the road with the TC on, the rear brakes are used instead of the LSD. Get the LSD rebuilt and the car is transformed on and off track!
Will you be using the car as a track toy or for road use? Either way, I cant fault your choice.....but then I am biased
I bought the car partly because my 996tt was not sufficiently 'track'. I'd got it after a good few years away from track days so was initially not fixed on that. In the end though, the work I wanted to do; roll cage, carbon buckets, six pot callipers, would have been very expensive to do right and would, IMHO have ruined a really nice turbo into the bargain. And, of course, it still would not be the track car the GT3 is.
It'll be used for a but of both basically, as the turbo was.
f1ten said:
Congrats I've still to tick off gt3 ownership but like you came from a 996t which I did love frankly it was a very good all rounder although the noise always was the let down.
Time to snap up a good GT3 and keep it! I know what you mean about the 996tt - phenomenally capable cars and, IMHO, still vastly underrated and misunderstood by many.LaSource said:
Congrats! Hope you get to enjoy it on special pieces of tarmac 
Thanks. For sure! 2018 calendar is definately going to include some worthy blacktop.Gassing Station | 911/Carrera GT | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff