learning on scrap engines
learning on scrap engines
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Ilovecbrs599999

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57 posts

97 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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I really wanna tinker with non working engines- don't care if completely dead and regarded as scrap- where do I get stuff like this- if I want a V4 engine say and I go on gumtree or ebay all I will see is working ones or slightly bad ones being sold for hundreds possibly thousands and I don't want to pay this kind of money for a single working engine, I'd only spend that kind of money on a collection of various different engine configurations (cheap and non working ideal). How can I do this please??
preferably motorcycles one cos they're light.. 1000cc bike engine is only about 60kg! .

Edited by Ilovecbrs599999 on Friday 13th October 00:02

Jammez

692 posts

224 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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Just head down your local scrappy & pick up something. If you speak to them nicely they might just give you something for pennies. If you go on Gumtree you might be able to pick up a bike that's a non runner and get it going as a project. Type "project" into ebay, always gets some interesting matches!

227bhp

10,203 posts

145 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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Find a workshop that specialises in whatever engine you want and give them a visit, they'll have plenty of dead ones for cheap money.

Peanut Gallery

2,605 posts

127 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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May I suggest something different, get a working engine (ebay has a working lawn mower for £30, if you wander around gumtree etc you could get this down) - this way you can tinker away, and then challenge yourself to get it running again afterwards. If you can't, you have lost £30 but gained experience.

Note, make sure you get a 4 stroke engine to play on, not a 2 stroke engine. - unless you are happy with what the differences are.

Also older engines are more likely to have a decent manual that goes with the engine (found online) so you can have something to help you put the massive pile of bolts back together!

Ilovecbrs599999

Original Poster:

57 posts

97 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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Thanks all, I think I'll do all of the suggested options!

Also in addition to what everyone has said what do you think of these Haynes build your own engine?:




GreenV8S

30,956 posts

301 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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Ilovecbrs599999 said:
Also in addition to what everyone has said what do you think of these Haynes build your own engine?
Do you realise that is a plastic toy with a few moving parts, and not a working engine?

Ilovecbrs599999

Original Poster:

57 posts

97 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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lol yes. it was so I could get an idea of the layout is all- I was hoping the internals of the engine would be an exact model replica

Zad

12,874 posts

253 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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The models are fun, but more than that I wouldn't bother. I'm not sure they will teach you anything you don't already know. Especially if you are going to strip down a real one.

Peanut Gallery

2,605 posts

127 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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If you do get a model, put a little oil in all the bearing places.

Yes, they are plastic models, but you do have to bolt together conrods, get the valve timing right (ish) get the firing order correct, even put piston rings in if I recall. All this is well explained in the book, I finished a straight 4 on Christmas afternoon, and discovered that by July the battery had died enough to confuse it, and would start up at about 3am....

If you are wanting to get into it, yes, go for it!

DJS1994

26 posts

95 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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I built the straight four model got it for my 15th birthday was great I loved it, I took it to a job interview for an engineering apprenticeship as my presentation and explained the model. I got the job biggrin Still have the model now!

Old Merc

3,743 posts

184 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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These models are very good. https://www.micksgarage.com/d/model-engines-and-ca...
I built this V8 one up to show my grandkids how engines work, its very realistic,electric motor,all moving parts,illuminating spark plugs.

Now then,slightly high jacking this thread, what I would love to do is to get hold of a scrap F1 DFV or similar old racing engine.Just to see if I could dismantle and reassemble it. Of course all the ones I have seen for sale online are going for stupid money.
Any one got any suggestions?

S6PNJ

5,652 posts

298 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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Old Merc said:
Now then,slightly high jacking this thread, what I would love to do is to get hold of a scrap F1 DFV or similar old racing engine.Just to see if I could dismantle and reassemble it. Of course all the ones I have seen for sale online are going for stupid money.
Any one got any suggestions?
Save harder??? wink

Gary C

13,957 posts

196 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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Scrappy the best bet. Most older ones have piles of them. Pick one up for £30 easy.