120d M Sport Ownership F21
Discussion
Consider myself clued up when it comes to cars, and general commons sense.
We have owned the car from new. Since birth its only had an EGR valve issue and oxygen sensor (both replaced under warranty)
As with our previous BMW's/Mini's purchases we are yet to receive the usual letter suggesting we take out extended warranty etc etc
Before, its not been a consideration as we tend to chop them in for a newer model at the 3 year point. But, this time I'm fond of this car and considering we keep it beyond the normal 3 year term. Getting to the point, has anyone owned one of these long term and what are they like for reliability?
If we do keep it on beyond warranty, is it worth taking out the extended warranty also? (cost to be confirmed but expecting it to be circa £30-40 per month)
Cheers
We have owned the car from new. Since birth its only had an EGR valve issue and oxygen sensor (both replaced under warranty)
As with our previous BMW's/Mini's purchases we are yet to receive the usual letter suggesting we take out extended warranty etc etc
Before, its not been a consideration as we tend to chop them in for a newer model at the 3 year point. But, this time I'm fond of this car and considering we keep it beyond the normal 3 year term. Getting to the point, has anyone owned one of these long term and what are they like for reliability?
If we do keep it on beyond warranty, is it worth taking out the extended warranty also? (cost to be confirmed but expecting it to be circa £30-40 per month)
Cheers
To be honest I wouldn't call those issues in a new car to be a good sign, so a warranty might be in order.
My 530 was three last March. So far it's been faultless, only going back for service and MOT. So I declined warranty because I thought the car was OK, I'd only be keeping it another year if that, and because my past experience with BMW is that they're pretty reasonable with out of warranty claims if you have a FBMWSH. (70% contribution to a large bill on our 7 yo Z4)
If you're keeping the car for a long time, it may be worth it but couldnt you start the warranty when the car's maybe 5 years old?
My cars only does about 11k miles a year, mileage may be relevant in the decision.
My 530 was three last March. So far it's been faultless, only going back for service and MOT. So I declined warranty because I thought the car was OK, I'd only be keeping it another year if that, and because my past experience with BMW is that they're pretty reasonable with out of warranty claims if you have a FBMWSH. (70% contribution to a large bill on our 7 yo Z4)
If you're keeping the car for a long time, it may be worth it but couldnt you start the warranty when the car's maybe 5 years old?
My cars only does about 11k miles a year, mileage may be relevant in the decision.
REALIST123 said:
To be honest I wouldn't call those issues in a new car to be a good sign, so a warranty might be in order.
Oddly enough I have had two of these go on my work cars. These going faulty early on a sign of problems to come then? I know thats extremely hard to tell but is there anything which would cause these to fail? Almost 3 years old and 18k, so not huge miles but is used on a daily basis. I do now and then take it for a blast to clear the cobwebs if we have a trip down south somewhere to see family.
I'd bail out, or get the warranty.
I had an E87 123d for over 6 years, then I started reading about N47 engine cam-chain issues! (Google is your friend here).
So I sold it (before BMW started picking up the bills)
From what I can make out 1 Series diesels still got the N47 engine until 2015.
Good luck whatever you decide!
I had an E87 123d for over 6 years, then I started reading about N47 engine cam-chain issues! (Google is your friend here).
So I sold it (before BMW started picking up the bills)
From what I can make out 1 Series diesels still got the N47 engine until 2015.
Good luck whatever you decide!
Mr Tidy said:
I'd bail out, or get the warranty.
I had an E87 123d for over 6 years, then I started reading about N47 engine cam-chain issues! (Google is your friend here).
So I sold it (before BMW started picking up the bills)
From what I can make out 1 Series diesels still got the N47 engine until 2015.
Good luck whatever you decide!
Do you put the same message on the forums? I’m sure I’ve read this almost word for word half a dozen times?I had an E87 123d for over 6 years, then I started reading about N47 engine cam-chain issues! (Google is your friend here).
So I sold it (before BMW started picking up the bills)
From what I can make out 1 Series diesels still got the N47 engine until 2015.
Good luck whatever you decide!
My work colleague had a 2008 123d for 3 years, sold it at 130k ish around a year ago. He put about 60k of those miles on.
Same battery, same turbo, same clutch, same starter motor. No real issues with it at all. Full service history, no receipts for any of the aforementioned, so assumed it was on the oroginal bits.
He may have been lucky, others may have been unlucky.
Same battery, same turbo, same clutch, same starter motor. No real issues with it at all. Full service history, no receipts for any of the aforementioned, so assumed it was on the oroginal bits.
He may have been lucky, others may have been unlucky.
Elliot2000 said:
Do you put the same message on the forums? I’m sure I’ve read this almost word for word half a dozen times?
Well why would I put a different message on forums given that was my experience of owning that car? 
Anyway to expand on that slightly I had mine as a pre-reg from less than 20 miles to over 81K miles.
All it ever needed apart from servicing and tyres was a number plate light just before 40K miles (under warranty), a battery just before 55K miles, another number plate light just after 60K miles (out of warranty) and a starter motor just before 77K miles so it was generally a great car, but with a tickin time-bomb IMO.
FWIW this is what I was getting at:- http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/23p5j5wzP...
http://babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=39358
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