New Keeper needing to tax car collecting Sunday - Advice

[edgrain]

HI
I am buying a 2014 astra from a used car supermarket (with a branch in Manchester and one in Cheshire) and they have given me a pick up slot on Sunday. They have MOT'd it on the 10th and he sent me the old log book V5C sections 1 to 8. They have signed section 8 and I will too as new keeper.
They didn't send the new keeper section though so I don't have a 12 digit number so i can't do it online.
I'm not sure if they have changed the owner to me (online) or not.

Can i tax it with the documents I have at the post office and if not (It doesn't say anywhere that i can) then what are they playing at by potentially inconveniencing me like this?

Thanks in advance and heres hoping.

[InitialDave]

Assuming you have a smartphone, do it when you collect the car and they give you the new keeper slip?

[MDMA .]

You can tax it on the V5C form you have.

[phil y]

MDMA . said:

You can tax it on the V5C form you have.

I’m not sure you can, the DVLA site says it needs to be in your name, otherwise you need the new keeper supplement.

OP, the dealer will be able to help you sort the tax out when you go to collect it. I bought recently from a small dealer, he sorted the tax online there and then.

[Wacky Racer]

phil y said:

OP, the dealer will be able to help you sort the tax out when you go to collect it. I bought recently from a small dealer, he sorted the tax online there and then.

This.

If the car has a valid MOT the dealer can do it in two minutes online.

[edgrain]

Thanks y'all.
Just another point, do I HAVE to have the insurance in place to get tax or can I get it before I go to collect on Sun?
Thanks again!

[Jimmy No Hands]

Yes you will be able to tax it without insurance.

I tax online at point of sale (or more specifically collection) for my customers via the DVLA website. Very quick & easy now.

[Nickp82]

You don't need insurance to tax it.

I don't think you are planning to but just in case, dont tax it with the bits of v5 you have because it will cancel when the ownership is changed. Use the green slip reference number (which to be fair is the same reference as the main v5 but with an extra number at the start so is easily guessed if you do want to crack on and get the car taxed)

[rubystone]

Nickp82 said:

You don't need insurance to tax it.

Yes you do. The DVLA checks this when tax is issued.

[nct001]

rubystone said:

Nickp82 said:

You don't need insurance to tax it.

Yes you do. The DVLA checks this when tax is issued.

Really... you know it's not 1986.

[rubystone]

nct001 said:

Really... you know it's not 1986.

Yes, really. You’re in the trade; you should be aware of the fact that whilst the new owner does not have to have physical evidence of insurance, when he/she taxes it online, the MOT history and evidence of valid insurance details are confirmed before confirmation is given of the car being taxed.

As you know, back in 1986 the trade had a lovely little sideline in claiming the tax back on cars they had in stock. Real shame they can’t do that now, eh?

Edited by rubystone on Friday 13th October 23:41

[anonymous-user]

rubystone said:

Yes, really.

No, it was removed several years ago.

http://stayinsured.askmid.com/documents/DVLA_insur...

[Nickp82]

rubystone said:

Nickp82 said:

You don't need insurance to tax it.

Yes you do. The DVLA checks this when tax is issued.

No you don't and no they don't.

[rallycross]

rubystone said:

Yes you do. The DVLA checks this when tax is issued.

Not any more, it's now assumed that it is insured.

[shost]

https://www.gov.uk/car-tax-disc-without-v11-remind...

Rather than as PH. Go straight to source.

[steve-5snwi]

If you don't have the document number on the V5c just use the 12 digit one that you do have and put any random number in front of it. If you go for continuous direct debit - not the monthly payment ones then it won't take the payment usually until the middle of the month.

Insurance is not required as it assumed the car is insured (continuous insurance) if its not insured then it either needs to be in the trade or SORN.

[rubystone]

charltjr said:

No, it was removed several years ago.

http://stayinsured.askmid.com/documents/DVLA_insur...

Lol the TLA is CIE...

[TooMany2cvs]

edgrain said:

I am buying a 2014 astra from a used car ... he sent me the old log book V5C sections 1 to 8.
They didn't send the new keeper section though

They're halfwits, who can't read the very simple instructions on the V5C. THEY send the main bit off, YOU get the V5C/2 new keeper. That's the only bits that are needed, and yet people who (presumably) do this day-in-day-out get it arse about face?

edgrain said:

Can i tax it with the documents I have at the post office

No. Without the V5C/2, you need the main V5C in your name - which'll take about a week. You could tax it now using a V62, but that'll cost you £25.

But... The 12 digit doc ref for the V5C/2 is the same as the 11 digit one on the main V5C, but with one extra digit at the front. There's no limit to the number of guesses you can have on the online tax site...