Electric Series Land Rover?

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Benjaminpalma

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1,214 posts

183 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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Recent technological developments mean that the idea suddenly doesn’t seem quite so daft...

In particular, Lithium-Ion batteries now seem relatively affordable (https://www.lithiumion-batteries.com/) and motor technology has improved (http://lynchmotors.co.uk).

I’ve been looking to replace the (very noisy) Perkins Prima in my Series One Landy with a 300tdi, but am I completely mad to even consider an electric motor?

Here’s some links I found inspiring:
http://adventure-ev.com
https://landy-point.de/index.php?art_id=a2b064e661...
https://www.lro.com/reviews/featured-vehicles/1409...

What are your thoughts, chaps? Thanks.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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Suspect it would technically mean instant q plate and an IVA/SVA.

InitialDave

11,927 posts

120 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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300bhp/ton said:
Suspect it would technically mean instant q plate and an IVA/SVA.
I don't see why. It's only the engine coming out, should be fine per the identity points requirement.

Doing it to a series 1 seems like a bit of a waste, though presumably it's all reversible.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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InitialDave said:
I don't see why. It's only the engine coming out, should be fine per the identity points requirement.

Doing it to a series 1 seems like a bit of a waste, though presumably it's all reversible.
I admit I didn’t follow the links. Assumed engine and gearbox. Plus some sort of welding to make it fit. Any welding to the chassis technically means Q plate.


Op - I struggle to see the point on something like an appreciating Series One. Convert it back to the standard petrol or put a V8 in it. As I bet you don’t do enough miles a year in it to worry about mpg.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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Btw - you’ve really got to love the BS in the LROI article.

Range of 50 miles or 4 hrs... yeah because most people drive at an average speed of 12.5mph biglaugh

InitialDave

11,927 posts

120 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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300bhp/ton said:
Btw - you’ve really got to love the BS in the LROI article.

Range of 50 miles or 4 hrs... yeah because most people drive at an average speed of 12.5mph biglaugh
In a series Land Rover off-road? Yup.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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InitialDave said:
In a series Land Rover off-road? Yup.
I don’t think it was referencing off roading. In fact how would engine braking work off road? Suspect it could be quite limited. And would use even more battery power.

Plus most/many off roading sessions are likely to last longer than 4 hours.

ST565NP

563 posts

83 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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Maybe there is an "official" way ( or it will be ) like this one made by Jaguar for a classic E type :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=610Amyhpzzk

The really interesting bit comes around 8th minute...

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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300bhp/ton said:
InitialDave said:
In a series Land Rover off-road? Yup.
I don’t think it was referencing off roading. In fact how would engine braking work off road? Suspect it could be quite limited. And would use even more battery power.

eh? Electric traction is AWESOME off road! Perfect, precise torque control, full torque from zero rpm, no clutch to have to engage and perfect bi-directionality means going down steep hills is childs play (and off course recharges the battery!)

However what would i put in the the engine bay of a S1 LR? A S1 Landrover engine obvs as they are getting really rather valuable in std trim.....

Benjaminpalma

Original Poster:

1,214 posts

183 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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Thanks for your thoughts, chaps. The original engine is long gone and the conversion will retain the original engine mounts, gearbox (probably) and transfer box.

blueacid

448 posts

142 months

Tuesday 17th October 2017
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300bhp/ton said:
I don’t think it was referencing off roading. In fact how would engine braking work off road? Suspect it could be quite limited. And would use even more battery power.

Plus most/many off roading sessions are likely to last longer than 4 hours.
On the contrary, basically every electric drivetrain will quite happily use engine braking to regen - that is, to run the motor as a generator, charging the battery up while slowing the vehicle down.

Buzz84

1,145 posts

150 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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I wouldn't like to go wading through any deep water while off roading with it though...

nbetts

1,455 posts

230 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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Buzz84 said:
I wouldn't like to go wading through any deep water while off roading with it though...
See, you are being short sighted here...

Submarines (you cant get much wetter than that) work perfectly underwater and they are fully electric when submerged.

All you got to do is keep the electric bits dry.

I am sure it can be done quite easily.

smile

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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Buzz84 said:
I wouldn't like to go wading through any deep water while off roading with it though...
^^^ with a std LR i'd agree! All the normal oily bits of LRs are extremely badly sealed! If you take your LR though anything much more than a foot or two of water will see swivel housings, axles, transfer cases, timingchain housings, etc full of water!

My V8 100" hybrid, with it's exMIL RadioVan engine electrics (on an FC101 radio van, the V8 ignition EMI suppression kit also was handily very waterproof and made a normal V8, which stuttered to a halt at the slightest damp day, pretty much into a submarine!) and with exhaust pressure driven axles and transmission (to try to stop water entry) , and a tall snorkel, would swim up to the top of it's windscreen without stopping!