So what affordable newish car is destined to hold its value?
So what affordable newish car is destined to hold its value?
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daemon

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38,523 posts

219 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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I remember 10 years ago looking at cars like the Subaru Impreza WR1 (the best of them were some years old around £15K at the time) and the rare but importable 4 door saloon white Type R at £19,995, or even to some extent the STi of the time and were £26,995 and when i look now they clearly held their money very well.

Anyone any thoughts on current affordable (ish) cars that might follow suit?

Fun, usable but destined to hold their money?

krisdelta

4,661 posts

223 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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I can't help thinking that fast-forward 3 years the new "baby" Aston will be available for a song once the next credit crunch hits. There were 3/4 year old cars being shifted for a 3rd of their list price in 2010 and haven't dropped below that price 7 years later.

daemon

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38,523 posts

219 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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krisdelta said:
I can't help thinking that fast-forward 3 years the new "baby" Aston will be available for a song once the next credit crunch hits. There were 3/4 year old cars being shifted for a 3rd of their list price in 2010 and haven't dropped below that price 7 years later.
You could be right - no not terribly affordable per se?

Though 10 year old Vantage do seem to have been sitting at around £30,000 to £35,000 for several years now.

Was thinking more mainstream stuff though?

Focus RS used to be contenders but i think the new one is a continuing model rather than a limited edition so might drop accordingly?

ZX10R NIN

29,916 posts

147 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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RS3 will depreciate more slowly than most as will a Megane Trophy R but the truth is no one really knows, I personally think the 4.7 Granturismos will firm up even more when the new smaller sharper model appears.

Driver101

14,451 posts

143 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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I can't see many mainstream cars doing so well now. There is too much supply and too many owners buying with the hope of preserving value.

Maracus

4,545 posts

190 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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Focus RS of course whistle

designforlife

3,742 posts

185 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Depends how new you mean by "newish".

Honda s2000, Integra DC2 and DC5, FD2 civic type R.

Nissan 350z have bottomed out and should start to climb in a year or 2.


S100HP

13,538 posts

189 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Gulia QV?

mike74

3,687 posts

154 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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If current monetary policy continues indefinitely (money printing and cheap n easy credit) then it will be difficult to find an interesting car that WON'T ''hold it's value''

nickfrog

24,020 posts

239 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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I can't help thinking that a LCI M135i or an early M140i will do well, for a few reasons:

- massive discounts were available (a little less favourable now) so that may benefit a second hand buyer if buying from a private seller
- their inherent residuals have been excellent despite the above
- BMW are likely to drop RWD and 6-pot for the next generation
- supply isn't huge


Driver101

14,451 posts

143 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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nickfrog said:
I can't help thinking that a LCI M135i or an early M140i will do well, for a few reasons:

- massive discounts were available (a little less favourable now) so that may benefit a second hand buyer if buying from a private seller
- their inherent residuals have been excellent despite the above
- BMW are likely to drop RWD and 6-pot for the next generation
- supply isn't huge
There is too many M135i and M140i. They are selling over 1500 per quarter.

There is less M240i and BMW coupes are usually more desirable than a hatchback. I still can't see them doing too great in the near future.

Edited by Driver101 on Monday 30th October 11:02

sinbaddio

2,757 posts

198 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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6 cylinder Cayman/Boxster's I reckon....

HappyMidget

6,794 posts

137 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Monaro and VXR8 prices are not likely to go down, and have actually been on the up for a while now.

nickfrog

24,020 posts

239 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Driver101 said:
nickfrog said:
I can't help thinking that a LCI M135i or an early M140i will do well, for a few reasons:

- massive discounts were available (a little less favourable now) so that may benefit a second hand buyer if buying from a private seller
- their inherent residuals have been excellent despite the above
- BMW are likely to drop RWD and 6-pot for the next generation
- supply isn't huge
There is too many M135i and M140i. They are selling over 1500 per quarter.

There is less M240i and BMW coupes are usually more desirable than a hatchback. I still can't see them doing too great in the near future.
Similar between hatch/coupes I think as the (subjective) lesser desirability is already reflected in the price anyway. 1500 per quarter seems a very low number, I had no idea.

Ursicles

1,081 posts

264 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Think the M2 will do well ... esp in manual guise.

The much anticipated M2 CS could knock values a little though depending on its pricing and what they actually do to the car.

nickfrog

24,020 posts

239 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Ursicles said:
Think the M2 will do well ... esp in manual guise.
I hope so but only AFTER I buy mine.

Still hoping for £35k for a manual at Xmas.

anonymous-user

76 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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HappyMidget said:
Monaro and VXR8 prices are not likely to go down, and have actually been on the up for a while now.
Agreed, although the oldest ones are 13 years old now so not that new! Prices of Monaros are the same now as they were 7 years ago and have started to increase. VXRs were always a couple of grand more than CV8s but they are much closer now as people are buying according to mileage and condition. Even cars with over 100k miles are still fetching 30% of their original price which is nuts.

Having said that, back in the late 90s I was close to buying a new BMW M Coupe but bought a Fiat Coupe instead as the waiting list was shorter and it was cheaper. The BMW would be around £50k today if the classifieds are to be believed.

With leasing being what it is and an over supply of everything, I cannot see any modern car retaining much of its value. Possibly the Focus RS but that's about it.

New BMW M cars? Not a hope!

HumanDoing

540 posts

148 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Civic Type R.

daemon

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38,523 posts

219 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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HumanDoing said:
Civic Type R.
I know they are relatively slow depreciators, but my concern with them is that unless you get a limited edition one or an import such as a DC5 then there is always a "newer" one around the corner which potentially softens used values?

I know the Championship white one held its value as did the DC2, DC5 and the white saloon one they did.

I'm not terriblyup on them though...

HumanDoing

540 posts

148 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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daemon said:
I know they are relatively slow depreciators, but my concern with them is that unless you get a limited edition one or an import such as a DC5 then there is always a "newer" one around the corner which potentially softens used values?

I know the Championship white one held its value as did the DC2, DC5 and the white saloon one they did.

I'm not terriblyup on them though...
Well personally I do think Mr N. Frog has better taste in cars in preferring the M2 and the M140/M240, however BMW's model is now clearly about shoving new metal out of the door hence the huge discounts and thus lower demand for used cars. Whereas being the 'new king' of hot hatches, according to some people, one would expect the Type R to hold on a bit better?