BMW Manual
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GolfR12

Original Poster:

111 posts

138 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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Are the gear changes generally a bit stiff in manual BMW’s?

Test drove a 56 Reg 320d Manual and it felt fairly stiff upshifting and downshifting in gears 1-3. Changes were slightly smoother in the higher gears. Also, a bit of a push sticking it into reverse.

Car had 70k on the clock and was in good nick apart from that.

krisdelta

4,673 posts

232 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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I've found all my BMW's a little "sticky" in that department (1st in my M3 was a bugger in the cold) - there are some replacement fully synthetic oils that can really help it I believe.

GolfR12

Original Poster:

111 posts

138 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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Do you mean engine or gearbox oil?

Didn’t want to take a risk on the car in case there was an issue with the gearbox linkage or something else drivetrain related.


krisdelta

4,673 posts

232 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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Replacement gearbox oil. If it was significantly "sticky" compared to other BMW's you've driven then leave it, if it was largely the same I wouldn't be too surprised and budget to replace the gearbox oil.

GolfR12

Original Poster:

111 posts

138 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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Haven’t driven many BMW’s with a manual gearbox to compare it with. Will see if I can get a test drive of another one at some point

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

265 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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Get the CDV delete and maybe a UUC quick change.

GolfR12

Original Poster:

111 posts

138 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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The Clutch was fully engaged when changing gears so not sure if a CDV delete would help with the gears sticking.

MajorMantra

1,714 posts

143 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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If my 06 plate 325i is anything to go by, then yes. If I'm perfectly honest, it's not the best gearbox. This car replaced a tatty Mk1 Focus and it's better in every single respect except this one...

Lowtimer

4,293 posts

199 months

Sunday 29th October 2017
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I did about 110K in an facelift E91 320D manual and it loosened up a bit eventually but it's not the slickest change. Chances are a change of the gearbox oil and possibly a bit of selector adjustment will help. If it doesn't jump out of gear or refuse to accept a gear at a sensible speed for that gear, and if there are no nasty noises, I'd regard it as probably ok.

SebringMan

1,774 posts

217 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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GolfR12 said:
The Clutch was fully engaged when changing gears so not sure if a CDV delete would help with the gears sticking.
Welcome to BMW gearchanges smile. The CDV does help but they were never the nicest of changes despite what the manual lovers tell you.

mon the fish

1,576 posts

179 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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Plus a heavier gearknob - BMW do one, called ZHP and it made the change in our Z4 a lot nicer

Mike335i

6,088 posts

133 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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They are not the greatest boxes, but with a bit of time to get used to them they are OK. I found that using a firm action made it feel better, nothing aggressive, but use a little more muscle in the lower gears.

A weighted knob, as mentioned above, should help it slot into the gear a little better and do some of the work for you.

The Cdv delete should improve the clutch feel, as would a BMS clutch stop as these reduce the dead space. Won't really affect the gear change action though.

If you couple all of these with a gearbox oil change it should be a pretty good gearshift, but it won't ever be a truly great one.

Having said all that, I still greatly prefer mine to the prospect of an automatic e90.

cerb4.5lee

45,202 posts

211 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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I didn't like the Manual gearboxes in my Z4M and E92 M3, they didn't like being rushed which I think is a big shame and they didn't feel that nice to use, strangely the manual in my 520d was much better to use and I actually liked the gearbox in that(although it was a poor combination with that engine).

You can see why Auto's/DCT rule nowadays in Bmw's...because they made such a pigs ear of their manual gearboxes sadly.