Are gopping grilles necessary?
Are gopping grilles necessary?
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AW111

Original Poster:

9,674 posts

163 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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One of the modern design trends that leaves me cold is the enormous front grille.

Here is a high powered 90's GT :

|https://thumbsnap.com/5Mdj3yy9[/url]
See also Mercedes v8's from the same era.

So is there any engineering reason for the huge grilles on modern cars, or is it just an unimaginative way to fill in the gap between the bumper and the impact-freindly raised bonnet?

otolith

69,357 posts

234 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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They didn't make *that* much power, though, by modern standards.

I suspect that more of an issue is the need to feed air to intercoolers now that everything is forced induction. Plenty of grille area on highly turbocharged rally reps from the era you're talking about and before.


HardtopManual

2,925 posts

196 months

Saturday 4th November 2017
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It's part of the design trend towards aggressive, rather than beautiful, cars. It's what Joe Public wants, apparently.

G600

1,479 posts

217 months

Saturday 4th November 2017
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Just for show, jalopnik photoshopped cars to show how much of the grille actually let's air through.
https://jalopnik.com/cars-without-fake-grilles-181...

stevieturbo

18,101 posts

277 months

Saturday 4th November 2017
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Where is the enormous front grill in that pic ?

It looks small.

AW111

Original Poster:

9,674 posts

163 months

Saturday 4th November 2017
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G600 said:
Just for show, jalopnik photoshopped cars to show how much of the grille actually let's air through.
https://jalopnik.com/cars-without-fake-grilles-181...
Very interesting, thanks.

E-bmw

13,536 posts

182 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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stevieturbo said:
Where is the enormous front grill in that pic ?

It looks small.
That was exactly his point it wasn't but they now are.

PositronicRay

29,049 posts

213 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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AW111 said:
G600 said:
Just for show, jalopnik photoshopped cars to show how much of the grille actually let's air through.
https://jalopnik.com/cars-without-fake-grilles-181...
Very interesting, thanks.
Tis interesting, I would have thought crap grills wouldn't help aerodynamics either. Form over function?

stevieturbo

18,101 posts

277 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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E-bmw said:
That was exactly his point it wasn't but they now are.
They are ? Any particular car ?

It's not like we're all driving Rolls Royce's with huge grills.

RDMcG

20,901 posts

237 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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New safety rules for pedestrians dictate a much blunter front end with more space over the engine that is crushable I believe. Not the case for mid or rear engined cars which therefore retain sleeker fronts.

227bhp

10,203 posts

158 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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The first two which sprang to mind were 'New Mercedes' (any) and Ford Sierra.







I agree, it's down to having more rads to cool, more power & efficiency (for engine zize), apart from the obvious one you've now got oil cooler, intercooler, air-con, power steering, fuel coolers as standard on many cars now.

All cars have undertrays which they never used to have, so the air is drawn back out of the engine bay under the car to help the aerodynamics.

mike74

3,687 posts

162 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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With all the current nonsense in the news about so called sexual harassment I actually read the thread title as ''groping girlies''