Pillar box cerb?
Discussion
Hi, been looking to purchase a cerb and have come across the comment about a "early pillar box" cerb a couple of times. What difference does this make? Can someone help, the couple I've looked at were both 97 Cerbs so are they? And when did it change? Seems to be a lot of ones with mk2 lights that are older but are mk1 but what else is different?
TwinKam said:
I've not heard this before, Jon. When you say 'early', do you mean all the Mk 1s or just the first year(?) or sofatjon said:
TwinKam said:
I've not heard this before, Jon. When you say 'early', do you mean all the Mk 1s or just the first year(?) or so
Sunvisors ? I dream of sunvisors !
FWIW Here's a quote from someone who did a bit of research....
"In 1996 the Series I was produced and included identifiable cosmetic
characteristics such as a thick windscreen banding (30mm) which gained it the nickname
of ‘the letterbox’ windscreen.
The A-post covers were of a “carbon fibre” look-alike, stuck-on variety, which all depends
on your taste. The roofline at the top of the A-posts was smooth.
The front and rear seats had head supports (adjustable on the front).
The headlights were large, single-reflector units and Ford Fiesta horizontal-bar
taillight clusters completed the rear end. The windscreen demisting system was dispersed
by several small "but perfectly-formed" holes at the front tip of the main nacelle.
The wheels were 17”, 7-spoke RLs.
The Series II, launched in September 2000, had the four-headlamp pods (often called the Tuscan-style),
colour-coded and flush-fitting A-posts, a roofline that retained its rain gutter from the front edge,
(25mm) windscreen band, circular tail light clusters,
loss of interior sun visors and what was to be called ‘Tuscan style’ seats.
The windscreen was now demisted by rotating ball vents.
IThere were several casting changes as well, such as the bellhousing.
Wheels were also changed to an 18” Spiders. "
This article has since been revised but it does give a general impression of things to be aware of when deciding which model to buy.
HTH
FWIW Here's a quote from someone who did a bit of research....
"In 1996 the Series I was produced and included identifiable cosmetic
characteristics such as a thick windscreen banding (30mm) which gained it the nickname
of ‘the letterbox’ windscreen.
The A-post covers were of a “carbon fibre” look-alike, stuck-on variety, which all depends
on your taste. The roofline at the top of the A-posts was smooth.
The front and rear seats had head supports (adjustable on the front).
The headlights were large, single-reflector units and Ford Fiesta horizontal-bar
taillight clusters completed the rear end. The windscreen demisting system was dispersed
by several small "but perfectly-formed" holes at the front tip of the main nacelle.
The wheels were 17”, 7-spoke RLs.
The Series II, launched in September 2000, had the four-headlamp pods (often called the Tuscan-style),
colour-coded and flush-fitting A-posts, a roofline that retained its rain gutter from the front edge,
(25mm) windscreen band, circular tail light clusters,
loss of interior sun visors and what was to be called ‘Tuscan style’ seats.
The windscreen was now demisted by rotating ball vents.
IThere were several casting changes as well, such as the bellhousing.
Wheels were also changed to an 18” Spiders. "
This article has since been revised but it does give a general impression of things to be aware of when deciding which model to buy.
HTH
Edited by Mr Cerbera on Tuesday 14th November 09:57
Edited by Mr Cerbera on Tuesday 14th November 09:59
Has any looked into swapping the earlier low cage cover to a later higher one? Or is the roll bar its self lower?
After having the Cerb off the road for 4 years putting far too many hours into rebuilding it I'd forgotten the main problem I had driving it was at 6'4" not being able to see out!
I found the odd position I'd managed to adopt to be able to drive it again after a short while but it was quite off putting initially.
After having the Cerb off the road for 4 years putting far too many hours into rebuilding it I'd forgotten the main problem I had driving it was at 6'4" not being able to see out!
I found the odd position I'd managed to adopt to be able to drive it again after a short while but it was quite off putting initially.
Byker28i said:
No but when my windscreen was replaced the only one I could get was with a slightly smaller border than the original.
I guess thats the later screen then. Did it make much difference to the visibility? Just to add for anyone looking at getting a Cerb, the seat drops as it goes back so with it right back I get a slight better view. When the kids were smaller & both had a child seat I could not drive it at all with with the seat all the way forward. My better half is a more normal 5'6" so had to then.
The older kid is 8 now so just sits in the normal back seat & we're all happy (till he gets too tall!)
The "series II" Cerbera was introduced for the 1999 Motorshow, so October/November 99 build date for change over date. The series II Cerbera and the then new Tuscan deliberately didn't have sunvisors. TVR had just launched TVR Personal Possessions run by Peter Wheeler's brother-in-law; and the idea was you would get a pair of TVR sunglasses free of charge with your new car purchase......
Luckyone said:
Byker28i said:
No but when my windscreen was replaced the only one I could get was with a slightly smaller border than the original.
I guess thats the later screen then. Did it make much difference to the visibility? Just to add for anyone looking at getting a Cerb, the seat drops as it goes back so with it right back I get a slight better view. When the kids were smaller & both had a child seat I could not drive it at all with with the seat all the way forward. My better half is a more normal 5'6" so had to then.
The older kid is 8 now so just sits in the normal back seat & we're all happy (till he gets too tall!)
As a short arse I have the seat right forward and adjusted the steering wheel accordingly
TVRinBFG said:
The "series II" Cerbera was introduced for the 1999 Motorshow, so October/November 99 build date for change over date. The series II Cerbera and the then new Tuscan deliberately didn't have sunvisors. TVR had just launched TVR Personal Possessions run by Peter Wheeler's brother-in-law; and the idea was you would get a pair of TVR sunglasses free of charge with your new car purchase......
Thanks for that James, I will update my website with those corrections My "Personal Possessions" package includes a Truckers Hat (acquired on Route 66) which cuts the direct sunlight beautifully.
skiworldbros said:
I have a 99 "letterbox" cerb and I have to say I love the compact feeling. I certainly wouldn't let this put you off buying one. Only problem I have is my 8 year old has to sit on a booster seat to see out of the windscreen but that will be the same in any cerb..????
Hi,Mine is 99 car too, earlier seats with headrests, carbon A pillar stick on bits, sunvisors,
but rear lights four pod style individual lights and four pod headlights ( with no side light),
So I it must be on the changeover phase OR specked to customers requirements?
It's the yellow one in Ralph Dodds book, I day say when driving it your view out of the front is like peering through a letter box! I love it though 👍
Steve.G.
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