EV noise

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saknog

Original Poster:

65 posts

110 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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Are EV to quiet for their own good. I have had several come past me stealthily in the city, which did catch me by surprise. Nissan seem to be trying something, would that be an option you would like to see.

https://jalopnik.com/if-electric-cars-start-singin...

Think of the option of aftermarket sounds, just like mobile phone ringtones (so long as crazy frog is banned)



nickofh

603 posts

119 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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Our Renault Zoe has a pedestrian alert that sounds below 18mph. It sounds a bit like a robotic hum.

It does make people look and wonder what the sound is in car park's. Oddly no sound plays in reverse though due to some law about reversing alarm's.

Cold

15,252 posts

91 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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Aren't the clinking bottles enough?

poo at Paul's

14,153 posts

176 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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It's a potential enormous issue, increasingly the visual distractions to pedestrians, phones, advertising etc, means for safety reasons cars should really becoming noisier not quieter.

As a former Zoe user, it was something I was very conscious of and noticed a lot. Not so much around town, as there was often noisier ICE cars around too, but supermarket carparks were the worst. You really had to keep your wits about you as distracted shoppers and trolleys just walked out in front of you! It was quite tiresome / frustrating, but was merely down to people's subconscious not being used to cars moving with no or little noise. Will take years and years to "reprogram" people.

cvega

405 posts

160 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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the leaf has a very faint high pitched buzz at low speeds. At first, I thought the car was broken. It should definitely be louder. I personally want it to be customizable with mp3 sounds.

raspy

1,498 posts

95 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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saknog said:
Are EV to quiet for their own good. I have had several come past me stealthily in the city, which did catch me by surprise. Nissan seem to be trying something, would that be an option you would like to see.

https://jalopnik.com/if-electric-cars-start-singin...

Think of the option of aftermarket sounds, just like mobile phone ringtones (so long as crazy frog is banned)
There are regulations in the EU with regard to this. I think it's either 2019 or 2020 that changes will take place.

https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/in...

InitialDave

11,927 posts

120 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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nickofh said:
Our Renault Zoe has a pedestrian alert that sounds below 18mph. It sounds a bit like a robotic hum.

It does make people look and wonder what the sound is in car park's. Oddly no sound plays in reverse though due to some law about reversing alarm's.
I turn it off because I find it irritating!

The people who wander out in front of EVs are probably the same people who wander out in front of cyclists. The problem isn't the approaching vehicle, it's the unobservant Darwin award candidate.

Knock_knock

573 posts

177 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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Certainly both Leaf and Zoe have "pedestrian warning" sounds at low speeds. Once speed rises a little higher then tyre noise is sufficient. The Leaf is a melodic whistling noise, and the Zoe is a metallic sounding groan.

If you turn them off then at slow speeds the cars are absolutely silent. I've amused myself by creeping up on colleagues in the car park smile

I tend to find that the only problems arise in higher noise areas, such as when the much quieter EV is drowned out by the noisy diesel 10m further back and people don't check before stepping out.

Inevitably future vehicles will have pedestrian avoidance systems as standard anyway, I would suggest. Which in conjunction with the warning sounds (and hopefully fewer noisy ICEs) should make it better.

lost in espace

6,166 posts

208 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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Knock_knock said:
Certainly both Leaf and Zoe have "pedestrian warning" sounds at low speeds.
The Leaf doesn't for sure, you have to turn the Zoe one off everytime you get in the car.

I have just learnt to be very careful when driving behind pedestrians in car parks, but most of them are "mombies" with a phone and headphones and they wouldn't hear an ICE car either.

cheeky_chops

1,589 posts

252 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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lost in espace said:
Knock_knock said:
Certainly both Leaf and Zoe have "pedestrian warning" sounds at low speeds.
The Leaf doesn't for sure
It does for sure as i have one! Not my pic but you get the idea....


saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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cheeky_chops said:
It does for sure as i have one! Not my pic but you get the idea....

If thats how you turn it off where's the button to turn it on confused

rscott

14,773 posts

192 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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saaby93 said:
If thats how you turn it off where's the button to turn it on confused
Presumably defaults to on and the button only illuminates when it's switched off (just like DSC, stop/start, etc in pretty much any modern ICE vehicle).

essayer

9,081 posts

195 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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I have had quite a few people step out on front of the ZOE, usually wearing headphones.

Worst thing is it has a particularly pathetic Noddy horn so you can’t even make them jump out of the way.

RicksAlfas

13,408 posts

245 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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The thing I find strange is people often look and seem to see me, but then walk out anyway. It's as if they need the double signal of noise and sight.
It would be a shame if we need to have klaxons and hooters going as the silence is part of the appeal!

saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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RicksAlfas said:
The thing I find strange is people often look and seem to see me, but then walk out anyway. It's as if they need the double signal of noise and sight.
It would be a shame if we need to have klaxons and hooters going as the silence is part of the appeal!
Wouldn't work for deaf either

RicksAlfas

13,408 posts

245 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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saaby93 said:
Wouldn't work for deaf either
No, but it might help the blind.
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saknog

Original Poster:

65 posts

110 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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So instead of the car making a noise, maybe people need to be fitted with a proximity alarm, or as it use to be called spatial awareness

Chris-S

282 posts

89 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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Based on current trends, it will need to be an app on pedestrians phones, since increasing numbers of same appear to wander about with ear buds in and eyes firmly glued to smartphone screen.