Subframe scrape repair - 3M schutz or Frost Chassis paint
Discussion
I've had a bit of a scrape to the subframe of my Citroen C1 last weekend (shouting match with the other half over whether or not I can park on that raised curb - you get the picture!)
My first attempt to get the job done before the rust started involved zinc rich primer followed by U-Pol stonechip. The stonechip cracked to a "crocodile skin" finish so has been wire-wheeled back to steel this weekend. I'm guessing that the paint reacted with the primer or it was something to do with poor adhesion to the zinc, anyway...
I have now painted two coats of an ordinary white acrylic primer and have the choice of two top coats. A can of 3M 08861 Schutz - painted by brush or an aerosol of Frost Extreme chassis black which should arrive on Monday. A friend swears by Schutz as he uses it, straight to steel, on his Land Rover chassis after welding.
I have brush-painted the Schutz to a piece of cleaned-up scrap steel and, 3 days later, I am not impressed. It can easily be scratched-through with firm fingernail pressure and I am unsure whether it will ever harden any further (or worse crack and fail to seal). One half of the scrap steel has primer, the other doesn't - it seems to make no difference the Schutz. (Yes I do appreciate that this should be applied with a proper Schutz gun).
Any opinions about either of these products would be appreciated. There is a little surface rust elsewhere on the subframe (MOT searches suggest that these all get like that after a while) and I am not looking for concours condition, I just want to get back where I started.
I am pulling my hair out at the thought of another week on the bus with the car in the garage! I know it's not a PH-worthy car but it's still my pride and joy!
Thanks in advance.
My first attempt to get the job done before the rust started involved zinc rich primer followed by U-Pol stonechip. The stonechip cracked to a "crocodile skin" finish so has been wire-wheeled back to steel this weekend. I'm guessing that the paint reacted with the primer or it was something to do with poor adhesion to the zinc, anyway...
I have now painted two coats of an ordinary white acrylic primer and have the choice of two top coats. A can of 3M 08861 Schutz - painted by brush or an aerosol of Frost Extreme chassis black which should arrive on Monday. A friend swears by Schutz as he uses it, straight to steel, on his Land Rover chassis after welding.
I have brush-painted the Schutz to a piece of cleaned-up scrap steel and, 3 days later, I am not impressed. It can easily be scratched-through with firm fingernail pressure and I am unsure whether it will ever harden any further (or worse crack and fail to seal). One half of the scrap steel has primer, the other doesn't - it seems to make no difference the Schutz. (Yes I do appreciate that this should be applied with a proper Schutz gun).
Any opinions about either of these products would be appreciated. There is a little surface rust elsewhere on the subframe (MOT searches suggest that these all get like that after a while) and I am not looking for concours condition, I just want to get back where I started.
I am pulling my hair out at the thought of another week on the bus with the car in the garage! I know it's not a PH-worthy car but it's still my pride and joy!
Thanks in advance.
Edited by 74hc04 on Saturday 4th November 10:05
Thanks guys.
I don't care what it looks like as it's out-of-sight. So long as the MOT man doesn't jump up and down it's fine.
The problem with the "crocodile skin" finish was that you could see the grey primer through the cracks. I wasn't confident as to how well it had adhered either.
The car is almost exactly 6 years old. If the subframe lasts another 3 or 4 years, I will be happy enough.
I don't care what it looks like as it's out-of-sight. So long as the MOT man doesn't jump up and down it's fine.
The problem with the "crocodile skin" finish was that you could see the grey primer through the cracks. I wasn't confident as to how well it had adhered either.
The car is almost exactly 6 years old. If the subframe lasts another 3 or 4 years, I will be happy enough.
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