Any active funds recommendations?
Any active funds recommendations?
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xyz123

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1,131 posts

159 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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Hi

As per title any recommendations for active funds to regularly invest £500 a month for time frame of 10+years. I am hoping for 8-10% annual growth over these years. So far I have subscribed to vanguard lifestyle products only.

I am not asking for investment advice and final decision will just be mine. As there are thousands of funds just looking to get some pointers where I can make final decisions? Ta

rattyuk2000

101 posts

199 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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I'd be interested to know if over this reasonably long time frame, active funds tend to outperform passive funds.

ringram

14,701 posts

278 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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All funds are active in some way.
So called "passive" funds are also an active asset allocation decision.
You should be thinking low cost rather than active v passive IMO.
https://www.pragcap.com/lets-try-this-again-ending...

Fundsmith smashes many others on a historical basis. But is neither passive nor especially low cost.
https://www.fundsmith.co.uk/fund-factsheet

That being said the costs reported are total and include all costs rather than the smoke and mirrors that usually goes on. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance...

and.. http://citywire.co.uk/money/investment-trusts-vs-e...


honest_delboy

1,755 posts

230 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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Nothing of not to add but I notice fidelity have started doing a performance linked charge.

QQ , its better to be in active fund if you think there is a correction coming right ?

98elise

32,658 posts

191 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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I'd recommend Lindsell Train Global Equity. It makes a a big proportion of my SIPP and it's performed well.

http://www.hl.co.uk/funds/fund-discounts,-prices--...

otherman

2,266 posts

195 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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Ive been really happy with the Fidelity Special Situations funds. Take a look at the historic performance. They have a great team with sound targetting process.

Derek Chevalier

4,668 posts

203 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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otherman said:
Take a look at the historic performance.
Why?

98elise

32,658 posts

191 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Derek Chevalier said:
otherman said:
Take a look at the historic performance.
Why?
Why wouldn't you? If they are consistently beating the market then its a good thing isn't it?

I wouldn't buy shares without looking at their past performance so I do the same with funds.

Derek Chevalier

4,668 posts

203 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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98elise said:
Derek Chevalier said:
otherman said:
Take a look at the historic performance.
Why?
Why wouldn't you? If they are consistently beating the market then its a good thing isn't it?

I wouldn't buy shares without looking at their past performance so I do the same with funds.
https://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21723845-sheer-luck-good-past-returns-predicting-future-performance-fund

One could argue there is little link between previous outperformance and the likelihood of a fund to continue to do so.

Am intrigued by your share price comment, are you suggesting that there is an element of predictability of the future share price based on what it has done previously?

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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Derek Chevalier said:
Am intrigued by your share price comment, are you suggesting that there is an element of predictability of the future share price based on what it has done previously?
If a share historically rises when fx rates change, would you suspect the price to change on a future fx change?

otherman

2,266 posts

195 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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Derek Chevalier said:
Am intrigued by your share price comment, are you suggesting that there is an element of predictability of the future share price based on what it has done previously?
We're talking funds, not individual shares. There's fund manager performance to see.

98elise

32,658 posts

191 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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Derek Chevalier said:
98elise said:
Derek Chevalier said:
otherman said:
Take a look at the historic performance.
Why?
Why wouldn't you? If they are consistently beating the market then its a good thing isn't it?

I wouldn't buy shares without looking at their past performance so I do the same with funds.
https://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21723845-sheer-luck-good-past-returns-predicting-future-performance-fund

One could argue there is little link between previous outperformance and the likelihood of a fund to continue to do so.

Am intrigued by your share price comment, are you suggesting that there is an element of predictability of the future share price based on what it has done previously?
Coupled with an understanding of the business then yes. If a company is delivering growth and decent profits year on year, and there are no barriers to further growth then I would consider the previous share price rises to be a good sign.

lockhart flawse

2,103 posts

265 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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Over the last 15 years my investment in a UK small companies fund has outstripped my equity income fund considerably. I make monthly contributions and since 2004 the price of the smaller companies fund has increased by 292% and the equity income fund by 213%

So look at a small companies - Harry Nimmo at Standard Life has a good reputation but there are other good ones.

Mid-Caps have done very well over last couple of years too. I have Old Mutual mid-caps which has been my best performing fund. Second is Lindsell Train Global Equity mentioned already.

I also have Fundsmith in my pension and am putting m ore into it later this month.

Derek Chevalier

4,668 posts

203 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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otherman said:
Derek Chevalier said:
Am intrigued by your share price comment, are you suggesting that there is an element of predictability of the future share price based on what it has done previously?
We're talking funds, not individual shares. There's fund manager performance to see.
98elise mentioned share prices

Derek Chevalier

4,668 posts

203 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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98elise said:
Derek Chevalier said:
98elise said:
Derek Chevalier said:
otherman said:
Take a look at the historic performance.
Why?
Why wouldn't you? If they are consistently beating the market then its a good thing isn't it?

I wouldn't buy shares without looking at their past performance so I do the same with funds.
https://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21723845-sheer-luck-good-past-returns-predicting-future-performance-fund

One could argue there is little link between previous outperformance and the likelihood of a fund to continue to do so.

Am intrigued by your share price comment, are you suggesting that there is an element of predictability of the future share price based on what it has done previously?
Coupled with an understanding of the business then yes. If a company is delivering growth and decent profits year on year, and there are no barriers to further growth then I would consider the previous share price rises to be a good sign.
Why would the current share price not reflect the expected continued good performance?

98elise

32,658 posts

191 months

Friday 10th November 2017
quotequote all
Derek Chevalier said:
98elise said:
Derek Chevalier said:
98elise said:
Derek Chevalier said:
otherman said:
Take a look at the historic performance.
Why?
Why wouldn't you? If they are consistently beating the market then its a good thing isn't it?

I wouldn't buy shares without looking at their past performance so I do the same with funds.
https://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21723845-sheer-luck-good-past-returns-predicting-future-performance-fund

One could argue there is little link between previous outperformance and the likelihood of a fund to continue to do so.

Am intrigued by your share price comment, are you suggesting that there is an element of predictability of the future share price based on what it has done previously?
Coupled with an understanding of the business then yes. If a company is delivering growth and decent profits year on year, and there are no barriers to further growth then I would consider the previous share price rises to be a good sign.
Why would the current share price not reflect the expected continued good performance?
If that's the case then it's probably good that I invest in funds now, and also why I'm not posting this from my private island smile