Speed cameras front of camera van
Speed cameras front of camera van
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xjay1337

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15,966 posts

148 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Can speed camera vans operate a speed laser detection operate through the front of a camera van (through the glass) ?

Some sources online state that lasers are not approved for use through glass. Is this correct?
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HantsRat

2,409 posts

138 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Highly unlikely.

"Laser speedmeters must not be used through glass or plastic screens to avoid diffraction
or scattering of the laser beam. While vehicle screens pass light with minimum diffraction,
elements within vehicle screens, as well as their cleanliness, makes the path of laser light less
predictable so it is discouraged in law enforcement devices. They can be used from within
vehicles through an open aperture, such as a window.
Take care that lenses are not damaged or dirty by not placing the instrument in a position
where this can occur. Make a visual inspection of the equipment for damage before use."

http://library.college.police.uk/docs/appref/NPCC-...

These are only guidelines though and not law so technically from a legal point of view, they could operate through glass.

Biker 1

8,588 posts

149 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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I believe the camera vans point the laser out the back; the front camera you may see affixed to the van's windscreen is there to verify the number plate of the vehicle that has just been nabbed, usually motorcycles, as they have no front plate.

RedBox

1,860 posts

146 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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The Approval has nothing to do with restricting the use through glass, there are no such restrictions in the Approval.

Use through glass is not encouraged and the guidance referred to above says that. Good advice.

Whether the laser can be relied upon in a measurement will depend entirely on the circumstances. As the laser uses glass lenses, some use plastic, use through glass is of course possible. If your car is in a crowded scene then the viability of the aiming is reduced when used through glass windscreens. The windscreen is not likely to alter the aiming but there is a possibility it might so the recommendation is to eliminate the chance by not using it through a screen.

If you are the only car in view and the laser makes a speed measurement then the use through a windscreen is completely irellevant and there is no chance the speed reading is in error.

When you think about it, if the screen was going to be distorting the laser aim then how would you see to drive?

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

200 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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You’ll find out in 14 days.

Wobbegong

15,078 posts

199 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Yep. Police in Worcestershire used an old purple Vauxhall estate as a speed camera vehicle and that was forward facing with the kit inside the car.

It wasn’t accurate, they accused me of doing 55 in a 50 zone (I was driving at about 45mph indicated).

xjay1337

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15,966 posts

148 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Alucidnation said:
You’ll find out in 14 days.
I won't. I haven't driven anywhere today. smile

lyonspride

2,978 posts

185 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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What they say and what they do are entirely different things, they want us to think that scamera vans can get you from all angles, they work in all weather conditions, they get you at night, etc etc etc.

In truth you only see them on nice dry/sunny days during rush hour to maximise profits.