Gastroscopy with no general or sedation
Gastroscopy with no general or sedation
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Driller

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8,310 posts

307 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Anyone had one of these with no general or sedation? How did it go?

I wanted to avoid any drugs and the gastrologue was quite happy to go along with it. I regularly have an ENT checking my vocal chords with a camera and that's no bother at all so figured it would be fine.

Any advice from any sword swallowers? biggrin


condor

8,837 posts

277 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Think I've had one - endoscope down the throat into the stomach?
Had the throat spray, which the nurse was pretty useless at spraying the target area - the doctor took charge and he was much better at it.
No problems, I had a guard in my mouth , which helps to guide the endoscope down without hitting the sides.
Throat was frozen, via the spray, for about 20 mins in total.

Edited by condor on Thursday 9th November 20:24

Aletank

137 posts

111 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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I recently had a camera up & down, the down one was over quicker but was the worse from the 2, i didn't have no sedation etc. I said if i had it done again i would get sedated, its just the stomach wrenchin balkin that go me but soon over with so i suppose if you want to suffer for a bit to save the sedation etc
Throat spray didn't have no effect i didn't feel, I had Biopsies took so maybe that made mine worse

C70GT

335 posts

116 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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I had the camera and little grab thingy down to take a sample of intestine lining for diagnosis of Coeliac Disease.

I'm one of the worst patients when it comes to medical matters - even my GP has a note on my records 'nervous patient'.

I had sedation before the endoscopy and the spray in the throat. I hardly felt a thing - as the actress said to the Bishop and even watched the procedure on the screen. Only discomfort was a bit of a sore dry throat afterwards for a few hours. I would recommend sedation, but no need for a general anaesthetic

oilandwater

1,427 posts

219 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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I've had four colonoscopies, sedated for all but one. The nurse told me that there are no prizes for being brave, so why put yourself through it?

moorx

4,638 posts

143 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Driller said:
Anyone had one of these with no general or sedation? How did it go?
I have. It wasn't overly pleasant, but nothing horrendous. As I said in a previous thread, I wouldn't bother with sedation if I had another.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Lotus Notes

1,331 posts

220 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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I had one a few weeks ago and they went in via my nose. (I was suprised how thick the cable was)

One spray in the throat and another in a nostril and after a quick swallow the doctor had full on HD vision of my empty stomach smile

I was apprehensive beforehand, but that soon subsided, it felt a bit weird when the doc. pumped a little air in, but otherwise nothing to worry about. I didn't even feel the biopsy.

FlyingMeeces

9,932 posts

240 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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I had one - or the start of one - accidentally; they failed to take into account relevant information and initially underdosed me BADLY with the sedative.

As an unexpected experience to which I hadn't consented, it was the utter utter pits, it's something I still have the occasional nightmare about.

I think if I'd gone in knowing, had been able to have a conversation with them about it, it would've been fine. Not that it's something I'd choose, but hey.

I can remember the words, actions and sensations of the first three or four minutes perfectly.

jjohnson23

711 posts

142 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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Had mine done in 2012,must admit I had the throat spray.
The young lady doing it showed me the camera on a stick thingy and it looked very small,felt a lot bigger as it was fed down my throat.
Not the nicest experience but seeing as I had had a burst ulcer and a near death experience 2 months before I just dealt with it.
Must say I now have a lot of respect for the ladies in those "art" films who can get much bigger items down their throats though.

C0ffin D0dger

3,440 posts

174 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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I had a bronchoscopy (camera/ultrasound/biopsy needle into my lungs), despite the sedation I still remember most of it and it was pretty horrific. The urge to cough was very bad but I knew this would be a bad thing to do with a pile of stuff shoved down my throat + them messing around with a needle. If I ever had to do it again (or any other endoscopy) I'd be asking for the biggest dose of chill out drugs they could possibly give me.

Don't think you're being brave or manly by asking to do it without, the drugs make it so much more bearable.

RTB

8,273 posts

287 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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I've had one endoscopy which I had without sedation. The big plus is you get off the bed after the procedure, have a cup of tea and go home. There's no recovery from the sedation. The big minus is that it's not very pleasant. There were a lot of nurses in the room when I had mine, all of which had their hands on me in case I decided to get up whilst the camera was firking about in my duodenum.

Without sedation its not nice (a lot of retching! feeling like you can't breath properly) but it's not really painful. If I needed to do it again I wouldn't have sedation.

Driller

Original Poster:

8,310 posts

307 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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Thanks for all the helpful replies, moorx thanks for the link to the other thread. It is very interesting that there seems to be a range of experiences involved.

I was told that the diameter of the fibrescope is about 10mm which seems very fair.

I'm very intrigued to know how it will go and very interested to see what it all looks like on the screen.

I'l post an update after the deed is done smile

GCH

4,140 posts

231 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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Significantly more uncomfortable than a colonoscopy.
Very claustrophobic

J4CKO

46,821 posts

229 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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Have the drugs, marvellous stuff medazelan biggrin

LeighW

5,343 posts

217 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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RTB said:
I've had one endoscopy which I had without sedation. The big plus is you get off the bed after the procedure, have a cup of tea and go home. There's no recovery from the sedation. The big minus is that it's not very pleasant. There were a lot of nurses in the room when I had mine, all of which had their hands on me in case I decided to get up whilst the camera was firking about in my duodenum.

Without sedation its not nice (a lot of retching! feeling like you can't breath properly) but it's not really painful. If I needed to do it again I wouldn't have sedation.
I had it with no spray or sedation - there was a lot of retching (far more than I expected), and a lot of drooling. Not pleasant, and I would 100% take the sedation if I had to have another!

crossy67

1,570 posts

208 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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I had one without sedation, just a spray. Not a pleasant experience but not the worst thing in the world. In fact, the worst thing of the whole experience was the nurses looking at my sympathetically and saying (in a patronising tone) "don't worry, no need to cry, it's all over now". Cheeky buggers lol.

As others have said, you drool and wretch like mad, so bay your eyes will water like crazy.

RC1807

13,671 posts

197 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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I had the camera up check, with small biopsy grabs on a few pollips, only mild sedation given. I was watching the exam on the monitor whilst the speciallist expalined it. I think without any sedative it would have been uncomfortable.
I felt OK to drive home after, but was told not to, so my wife had to get the bus into the City to collect me and drive me home in my car!

Alex

9,978 posts

313 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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I had one with the local anaesthetic throat spray. It was fine. They pump air into your stomach so you feel burpy, but it's not actually unpleasant.

mac96

6,443 posts

172 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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RC1807 said:
I had the camera up check, with small biopsy grabs on a few pollips, only mild sedation given. I was watching the exam on the monitor whilst the speciallist expalined it. I think without any sedative it would have been uncomfortable.
I felt OK to drive home after, but was told not to, so my wife had to get the bus into the City to collect me and drive me home in my car!
I had a similar process, with a mild local sedative (I have had it done twice, and first time I was right out) and it was still quite painful.

I was told to sit around for an hour or so afterwards and I would be OK to drive- but I wasn't. Moral is - don't drive to the appointment, even if theoretically OK to drive back (unless of course no sedative at all). Leaving a car overnight in most hospital car parks nowadays is expensive!

SiH

1,858 posts

276 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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Driller said:
I regularly have an ENT checking my vocal chords with a camera and that's no bother at all so figured it would be fine.
The difference between a flexi nose-a-scope and a gastroscope is huge. The ENT version is nice and delicate and only really goes up your nose to peer round the corner at your cords from above. A gastroscopy without sedation would be like sharing a prison cell with mandingo...