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Not sure if this would be the correct place to ask this question but here goes. I am looking at Hybrid Mercedes E350 Saloon and BMW 530E but wanted to ask, A, Peoples thoughts on these cars and B, What is the true mileage returns?
Its going to be a car that I use for work and I have a max 35 mile round trip commute and sometimes less.
Any help would be appreciated.
Its going to be a car that I use for work and I have a max 35 mile round trip commute and sometimes less.
Any help would be appreciated.
It all depends on what your commute is like and if you charge the battery before you go. With a fully charged battery and a gentle run you should easily get 50 or 60+ mpg. If it's all stop start without a charged battery then it won't be any where near that mark. Don't expect to see 100 mpg though
mangante49 said:
Not sure if this would be the correct place to ask this question but here goes. I am looking at Hybrid Mercedes E350 Saloon and BMW 530E but wanted to ask, A, Peoples thoughts on these cars and B, What is the true mileage returns?
Its going to be a car that I use for work and I have a max 35 mile round trip commute and sometimes less.
Any help would be appreciated.
Not quite the same but our Merc 300h achieves mid 40s despite claimed high 70s. Its going to be a car that I use for work and I have a max 35 mile round trip commute and sometimes less.
Any help would be appreciated.
Lovely car though.
Not quite the same, but hopefully pertinent. Our C350e is very sensitive to the type of drive. We do very short local trips mostly and rarely see less than 99.9mpg on the display, but I accept our use is probably unusual. On longer runs, it typically does around 60mpg or better. Last full tank of petrol gave us just over 900 miles, that included a longer run of about 200 miles round trip plus a couple of local 40 mile runs.
Once you start to enjoy the performance though, that number will tumble. When trying to run in the ICE, I ran it in Sport most of the time and it was returning about 40mpg.
Can't emphasise enough just how sensitive to the type of driving they are. Keep it in EV range and drive gently and it'll easily achieve the claimed numbers. Drive it like a loon and never charge it up and you'll never see close to that. Obviously!!
Once you start to enjoy the performance though, that number will tumble. When trying to run in the ICE, I ran it in Sport most of the time and it was returning about 40mpg.
Can't emphasise enough just how sensitive to the type of driving they are. Keep it in EV range and drive gently and it'll easily achieve the claimed numbers. Drive it like a loon and never charge it up and you'll never see close to that. Obviously!!
mangante49 said:
Not sure if this would be the correct place to ask this question but here goes. I am looking at Hybrid Mercedes E350 Saloon and BMW 530E but wanted to ask, A, Peoples thoughts on these cars and B, What is the true mileage returns?
Its going to be a car that I use for work and I have a max 35 mile round trip commute and sometimes less.
Any help would be appreciated.
They certainly have a place, especially if you’re looking it as a company car. The true mileage returns will depend on how much you charge, how hard you drive it and how much you use it outside your commute. Its going to be a car that I use for work and I have a max 35 mile round trip commute and sometimes less.
Any help would be appreciated.
Given what’s been published you wouldn’t get a full round trip on battery alone without charging at work so maybe 60-120mpg depending on the roads on your commute.
Temperature will play a big part of your range, winter time can take a third or so of your battery range and even more if you cane the heating and electronics in the journey.
The cars you mentioned are comfy but not exciting at all. They’re heavy (especially with the battery packs) but if true driving enjoyment isn’t high on your list then they’ll do a good job for you.
ZX10R NIN said:
It depends on what car you go for, are you looking at a petrol hybrid or diesel hybrid?
The two cars mentioned are petrol hybrids, both 2 litre 4 pots with an electric motor to give the additional ooomph and city boost. ZX10R NIN said:
OP if you want good mileage when doing motorway driving then I'd go for the Mercedes E300h you get good real world economy with the benefit of low BIK.
Unfortunately the E300h also doesn’t attract a low BiK rate. It’s still a diesel and around 110gm of CO2 which is no better than the C250 I’m currently driving around in. The BiK is not far off double for the oil burner in the current tax year than the equivalent e350h (£1,600 vs £2,950) for 40% tax payers. I had an E300h for a long weekend a few years ago and it was a good drive, getting 56mpg on a long drive back from Sheffield to Wiltshire but the electric part of it seemed a bit of a token effort and mainly helped when sailing down the hills of the M1 and M5.
Company car wise, there’s a strong shout for plug in hybrids, even with the increase in BiK payments in forthcoming tax years (diesels aren’t getting any cheaper either though).
We've gone for a Mitsubishi Outlander. They claim 160mpg which is "obviously" "bulls
t".
I suspect that within the 30mile EV only range you get almost no petrol usage at all, and then 50 - 70mpg once beyond that. Given it's a massive SUV that's OK by me.
I will report back when we have real world usage figures. I'm still using the Leaf for commuting. The Outlander is the wife's runaround, our crap weather car, and an SUV to go on Winter/Early Spring/Autumn vacations in.
t".I suspect that within the 30mile EV only range you get almost no petrol usage at all, and then 50 - 70mpg once beyond that. Given it's a massive SUV that's OK by me.
I will report back when we have real world usage figures. I'm still using the Leaf for commuting. The Outlander is the wife's runaround, our crap weather car, and an SUV to go on Winter/Early Spring/Autumn vacations in.
Don said:
We've gone for a Mitsubishi Outlander. They claim 160mpg which is "obviously" "bullst".
I suspect that within the 30mile EV only range you get almost no petrol usage at all, and then 50 - 70mpg once beyond that. Given it's a massive SUV that's OK by me.
I will report back when we have real world usage figures. I'm still using the Leaf for commuting. The Outlander is the wife's runaround, our crap weather car, and an SUV to go on Winter/Early Spring/Autumn vacations in.
http://www.fuelly.com/car/mitsubishi/outlander?engineconfig_id=&bodytype_id=&submodel_id=73729t".I suspect that within the 30mile EV only range you get almost no petrol usage at all, and then 50 - 70mpg once beyond that. Given it's a massive SUV that's OK by me.
I will report back when we have real world usage figures. I'm still using the Leaf for commuting. The Outlander is the wife's runaround, our crap weather car, and an SUV to go on Winter/Early Spring/Autumn vacations in.
SystemParanoia said:
Don said:
We've gone for a Mitsubishi Outlander. They claim 160mpg which is "obviously" "bullst".
I suspect that within the 30mile EV only range you get almost no petrol usage at all, and then 50 - 70mpg once beyond that. Given it's a massive SUV that's OK by me.
I will report back when we have real world usage figures. I'm still using the Leaf for commuting. The Outlander is the wife's runaround, our crap weather car, and an SUV to go on Winter/Early Spring/Autumn vacations in.
http://www.fuelly.com/car/mitsubishi/outlander?engineconfig_id=&bodytype_id=&submodel_id=73729t".I suspect that within the 30mile EV only range you get almost no petrol usage at all, and then 50 - 70mpg once beyond that. Given it's a massive SUV that's OK by me.
I will report back when we have real world usage figures. I'm still using the Leaf for commuting. The Outlander is the wife's runaround, our crap weather car, and an SUV to go on Winter/Early Spring/Autumn vacations in.
Played with it a bit now...it all gets better when you switch from US Gallons to UK Gallons. You can filter 2015 only vehicles and doing that it seems my 50-70mpg is quite achievable. Excellent! Going to join up with Fuelly, I think.
Edited by Don on Sunday 12th November 17:09
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