Why does my bank want to know the purpose of my withdrawal?
Why does my bank want to know the purpose of my withdrawal?
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CoolHands

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23,564 posts

225 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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Off today to buy a motor bounce

But in order to get the readies I’ve had to phone my bank to get them to raise the daily ATM limit to 2k, which is the max they will do each day, so I can get the readies. Because of the amount (3.5k) I’ve had to do it on 2 days, although I’ve actually had to ring 3 Times - Friday, sat and sun as in the end I wasn’t able to get a chance to withdraw it on Friday.

Anyhoo, each time I’ve rung they’ve had to go through a script and say, because of the large amount they need to know what it’s for, but in a polite way. As I’m weak I just cave and tell them, to buy a car.

But, why do they need to know this? What if I was belligerent and told them to mind their own? Also, on the last 2 times they were chatty and asked what I was buying, and then claimed to like those cars themselves etc. It really felt (conspiracy hat on) not genuine ie as if they were checking if my story was likely. I also wondered if on the second convo if I changed the vehicle to be say a transit van or whatever, it would have flagged up as incompatible with what I had last said, and cause a flag / hold to be put on.

TL;DR
Are they watching me wobble

HTP99

25,319 posts

170 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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Money laundering I think, just covering their arse.

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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Money laundering would be the original purpose.
However it's become another info gathering technique. Offers of loans, insurance etc

BoRED S2upid

21,069 posts

270 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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Everyone says to buy a car. It really is non of their business.

mike74

3,687 posts

162 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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Had the same the last time I wanted to withdraw a relatively large amount to pay cash for a car (yes, I am one them weirdos that actually BUYS cars with REAL money!)

The questions were all a bit pointless really, they didn't ask for any further proof that I was buying a car

HTP99

25,319 posts

170 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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mike74 said:
Had the same the last time I wanted to withdraw a relatively large amount to pay cash for a car (yes, I am one them weirdos that actually BUYS cars with REAL money!)
Yawn!

Bill

58,737 posts

285 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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Why wouldn't you just use a bank transfer?

Or do you subscribe to the Mike Brewer "'old out yer'and" school of haggling?

CoolHands

Original Poster:

23,564 posts

225 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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Bill said:
Why wouldn't you just use a bank transfer?

Or do you subscribe to the Mike Brewer "'old out yer'and" school of haggling?
Last couple of occasions I’ve bought motorbikes I’ve done that. Then been sat in the vendors house all day while the fking banks divert it into a fraud check account and don’t know what they’re on about when you phone. It’s hell.

Mr E

23,079 posts

289 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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BoRED S2upid said:
Everyone says to buy a car. It really is non of their business.
I just say “shopping” and attempt to raise an eyebrow in a Roger Moore style.

They’ve just shut my local branch. I hope the two aren’t related.

JulianHJ

8,871 posts

292 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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An increasingly popular tactic for fraudsters is to call victims and convince them that their bank is holding counterfeit currency in their account, and that the bank staff at their local branch along with the local police may be in on it. The fraudsters instruct the victim to go to the branch and withdraw the 'counterfeit' money, which will then be collected by a courier. The bank will subsequently refund the customer with 'real' notes. They keep the customer on the phone throughout the process, which can take hours, and are often given a cover story to tell staff when challenged about the reason for the withdrawal.

There are dozens of victims of this method, and most have their life savings cleared out.

Aside from that, there are the well-versed rogue traders who will vastly inflate costs, again often getting victims to hand over their life savings.

Bank staff are being made aware of these tactics, leading to questions being asked more frequently where suspicion is aroused.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

255 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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I wonder what their reaction would be if you told them "coke and hookers".

Bill

58,737 posts

285 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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CoolHands said:
Last couple of occasions I’ve bought motorbikes I’ve done that. Then been sat in the vendors house all day while the fking banks divert it into a fraud check account and don’t know what they’re on about when you phone. It’s hell.
Ah, ok. I obviously have an innocent face because it's always gone through disturbingly quickly when I've done it.

sidicks

25,218 posts

251 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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BoRED S2upid said:
Everyone says to buy a car. It really is non of their business.
It really is! As explained above, money laundering regulations.

Starfighter

5,350 posts

208 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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They would probably just write it down. The counter staff are treated as drones and have to follow the script.

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

162 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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It is largely about fraud prevention, were vulnerable customer are being conned.

I value my privacy but would go with flow on this one.

Rich_W

12,548 posts

242 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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sidicks said:
BoRED S2upid said:
Everyone says to buy a car. It really is non of their business.
It really is! As explained above, money laundering regulations.
Money Laundering is £10K. So a £3K withdrawal is way under that.

And as above if you were buying Coke and Hookers then you wouldn't tell them anyway.

Chris944_S2

2,066 posts

253 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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sidicks said:
BoRED S2upid said:
Everyone says to buy a car. It really is non of their business.
It really is! As explained above, money laundering regulations.
Which money laundering regulation requires a bank to asks such questions? And up to howmuch can I take out in one go before they start suspecting me of such things?

Monkeylegend

29,369 posts

261 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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Wouldn't you just love to tell them it's for booze and hookers, just to see the look on their face.

Countdown

49,519 posts

226 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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Monkeylegend said:
Wouldn't you just love to tell them it's for booze and hookers, just to see the look on their face.
Buying booze or hookers isn't illegal is it.....?

(Asking for a friend....)

Monkeylegend

29,369 posts

261 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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Countdown said:
Monkeylegend said:
Wouldn't you just love to tell them it's for booze and hookers, just to see the look on their face.
Buying booze or hookers isn't illegal is it.....?

(Asking for a friend....)
Apparently not according to my friend.

Just noticed it has already been posted above. Note to self read threads properly before posting banghead