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V6GTO

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Thursday 14th April 2005
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20D +Sigma 12-24. 30secs @ f14 - ISO 100. Photoshop CS Curves, saturation, contrast and sharpen but no noise reduction.

Let me have it...



Martin.

Mrs Fish

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beano500

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Thursday 14th April 2005
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Mmmm - gorgeous velvety reflections....

CVP

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Thursday 14th April 2005
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Lovely image and fantastic velvety reflections on the water.

Great to see the lack of noise on the image. At last digital is making great progress on the long exposures.

Chris

BrianisHHC

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Colorful

Phil S

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Thursday 14th April 2005
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The colours on the water are fantastic!

simpo two

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Thursday 14th April 2005
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V6GTO said:
Let me have it...

I'd say 2 degrees CW

darthdicky

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Thursday 14th April 2005
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Very nice

V6GTO

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Thursday 14th April 2005
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simpo two said:

V6GTO said:
Let me have it...


I'd say 2 degrees CW


Nice to see you're on the ball, John.
To be fair, the camera was on one of those 6 inch mini-pods on the breakwater rocks, and I was lying down, looking through the viewfinder sideways! No excuses though, pass me my revolver...

Martin.

kojak

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te51cle

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I know how hard it is trying to compose a night time image though so I appreciate your effort to capture the image. I think I'd crop it a little off the left hand side to get rid of the bright light on the edge, and I think it can lose a fair bit off the bottom without harming the light reflections. If the camera was tilted upwards a little more it would give the buildings a little more "room to breathe" at the top of the image.

I thought a funky mounting colour would accentuate the atmosphere, but I fear I may have gone a little over the top !

simpo two

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Thursday 14th April 2005
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V6GTO said:
No excuses though, pass me my revolver...

PhotoShop is less painful though... BTW as I'm sure you know if I don't heap praise on something it means it passes the tests - so what I mean is that everything else about it looks good

V6GTO

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te51cle said:
I know how hard it is trying to compose a night time image though so I appreciate your effort to capture the image. I think I'd crop it a little off the left hand side to get rid of the bright light on the edge, and I think it can lose a fair bit off the bottom without harming the light reflections. If the camera was tilted upwards a little more it would give the buildings a little more "room to breathe" at the top of the image.

I thought a funky mounting colour would accentuate the atmosphere, but I fear I may have gone a little over the top !


I hear what you say re cropping, and 9 times out of 10 I'd agree with you. My only problem with that is that your version seems too constricted somehow, no sense of space and freedom, no sense of openness, which is what I was feeling at the time. Don't get me wrong, your version is, probably, technically better, it just doesn't say what I was trying to say. I really apreciate your comments (and everyone elses) though, please keep 'em coming.

Martin.

PS - the funky background is awful IMHO

bilko2

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Thursday 14th April 2005
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Excellent, very dramatic and great composition.

ThatPhilBrettGuy

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Thursday 14th April 2005
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I really like it, but then I'm a sucker for long exposure shots. So much so that I've just ordred a TC-80N3.

V6GTO

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Thursday 14th April 2005
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TC-80N3?

ThatPhilBrettGuy

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petros

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Thursday 14th April 2005
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You need a more powerful camera. I can't see the expression on the face of the man on the balcony 1 floor from the top in the big hotel. Just a minor point !!!

V6GTO

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ThatPhilBrettGuy said:
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That's £95 you owe me!

Martin

Edited to add:- it annoys me that the release for my EOS1n isn't compatible.

>> Edited by V6GTO on Thursday 14th April 20:49

te51cle

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Ah, to express feelings in your art desire you ? The path to greatness you seek ? Good, good, progress that is. Beware of the dark side, powerful it is. OK, OK, enough of the Yoda bit.

My impression from your image was that it was about vibrant colour and light and very enjoyable too. Therefore my first reaction in cropping the image was to remove what I felt was dead space as it wasn't contributing as much colour, yet you'd deliberately put it there to show how much space there was ! Communicating a message or feeling that you want to get over to your audience isn't easy - damn frustrating in my experience to be honest - so don't worry even if people don't get it.

Classic landscapes have three areas of interest a foreground, a middle and a background. I think that helps define the space and the size of each part of it. In your example the background would be the buildings, the middle ground the sea and the foreground is... the missing element.

There looks like there's an interesting rock at the bottom left but we can't quite see it as there isn't enough light on it from this side, though it looks like there might be enough on the other side. If you've got the time and inclination to go back you could try moving a bit to the left of where you took the original and try catching just the top of the rock at the bottom of your frame and just a bit off-centre. Try a vertical format image too if you can find a suitable tripod - as a desperate measure I've once put a coat under my camera, propped it up against my camera bag then fired the shutter using the self-timer and had perfectly good results. Am I right in thinking that you used the lens at its 24mm end ? If so then try moving to a slightly wider angle as it will change the perspective and might give you more what you're looking for.

Didn't mention this before but the curve of the water's edge going up the beach leads the eye nicely in to the image so do try to keep that feature in there.

Of course the tide will be different when you go back so the lights might not be at the right angle, or it may not be possible to get into the right position without there being an awful splash ! Such is life. Another alternative is to get someone to moor a small boat nicely in the foreground, this may be a job for Mr. Photoshop.

I've just realised that the buildings in the background are a bit bright and are leading the eye straight to them. If you reduce their brightness then the eye will fall more to the centre of the image adding to the feeling of space e.g.


Oh dear, I have rambled on haven't I ???