EBC Green or Black

[mhibbins]

Would EBC's green or black brake pads suit me best based on the following... I'm going to fit EBC vented discs (non-grooved) and will be using the car on the road and not on the track, for the daily commute and for driving through the winter. They probably aren't going to get a lot of heat and they're going to get a lot of water and crud thrown at them. Are the green pads going to be ok with this or am I better off going for black pads?

Thanks,

Mark

[johno]

Greenstuff pads are for fast road and track use. Black's I presume are standard road pads.

Depends largely on how enthusiastically you use the car. I did not get on with EBC pads and have heard mixed reports from others. They do remain however extremely popular with the TVR fraternity and they are more good reports than bad.

If you after FR&T pads then my suggestions would be for Pagid FR&T pads. I have these currently and they are superb. The set currently on my car has done 2 track days and about 5000 miles and the wear is good and the bite is superb. I have only managed to get them to fade when at Hethel I stayed out for far too long and they eventually got too hot. The fade however was negligible and the ambient air temp was very high.

I know PaulV runs Green Stuff on his S and loves them.... A lot of this comes down to personal choice as much as anything...

I can't comment on the Black pads as I have never used them but the FR&T pads I have now make the Mintex pads I had before look silly ....

Cheers

Mark

[Paul V]

I get on fine with the green stuff pads as johno said, I also used mine all weathers and haven’t had any problems, they’ve stood up to 2 track days and lots of road use, I’ve done 11,000 miles since they were fitted in march and still seem fine.

[M@H]

I'm using Green on the S and the Puma.. I think Black would be too harsh, and you wouldn't get them hot enough..

Cheers
Matt

[mhibbins]

I won't be doing any track stuff at all with the car but if the green pads work well on the road I'll go with those.

Thanks for the advice.

Mark

[Paceracing]

I have used Green pads in the past and rate them quite highly. I have no experience of Pagid pads and so am unable to comment. The best pads I have used for normal routine road use without driving like a loon, are Halfords!!!!
I know nothing about the black pads, but if they are high temperature pads, I would steer clear of them. Even Red pads are not that great until they get hot. To give you an example, I use Red's on my Fiesta race car, and it takes about 2 laps to get them up to temperature before I have full confidence in them.

Jas.

[Justin S]

Just put some greens on my S3 with new brake discs.They are loads better than before,but then the old discs were junk.Seem to be bedding in and others claim they score the discs badly,but after 400 miles they all seem OK.Worth a try for road use.

[S2 Giles]

To clarify....as EBC dont make things easy

Black pads are basic car pads made by EBC that meet standard 90 of the normal car pad standards.

Green are next, great at 0-500 degrees and best for fast road & track. I have just fitted EBC grooved & spotted (not drilled) discs with Greenstuff pads and am currently running in.

Yellow are the confusing ones as the colour of the pad & mounting is black !! these are for track use only or someone brave.

hope this helps, if i were you i'd go for green, they are only £28 and are better than black, so why not.

[chin up]

Echoing S2 giles, I have just fitted exactly the same stuff, (purchased from rm car spares online). So far (100 miles of careful driving) they feel soooo much nicer than the old rusty crap that was on there before. I replaced my flexible front brake hoses with braided aeroquip stainless steel jobbies, which I got from tower view for £40.

Total cost about £150. WELL worth it. cheers.

[shpub]

I have used EBCs on several occassions and have been amazed at their consistent performance:

They are always cheap.
They are always Green.
And they are very inconsistent in cold braking, eat disks like they are going out of fashion despite their claims to be disc friendly and never recover when they get overheated.

Better than standard road pads.... just!

Just to put an alternative point of view.

Steve

[johno]

Steve I wholly agree !

They knackered my big disks with enthusiastic road driving and cold were crud.

Pagids are twice the price, but 3 times the performance.

Cheers

Mark

[Paul V]

Don’t agree with the bit about them not recovering from being overheated, mine got very hot (smoking and no bite) when I was in the lake district, I let them cool down then after using the brakes a couple of time they were back to normal, it may help that I have grooved disks though.

[bennno]

agree with SH, green are not really for any track day use and EBC advise the pads would deteriorate rapidly if used for such activities.

Tiwce the price are Ferodo DS2000's which have much more grip when cold, dont eat the disks too badly and are much better able to cope witha wider range of temps.

The blackstuff pads are for endurance racing and are a hard compound which would be rubbish for road use, whilst the red pads are harder than green which means you will not overheat them on a track day, but they will probably squal like a stuck pig and refuse to play ball when cold.

Bennno