IT hourly Rate
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UKBob

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16,277 posts

294 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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Who here is in (or has friends in) the web design or graphic design or software development, database/programming game, and what kinds of hourly rates does everyone charge?

For both new and existing clients. Short term and long term projects etc.

Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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£750 a day.

And worth every penny.

And half the price of the big consultancies.

UKBob

Original Poster:

16,277 posts

294 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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Don said:
£750 a day.

And worth every penny.

And half the price of the big consultancies.

miniman

30,000 posts

291 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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Between £500 and £750 per day depending on complexity, client etc. Significantly reduced rates for longer-term stuff.

UKBob

Original Poster:

16,277 posts

294 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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And both of you chaps are quoting prices aimed at corporate clients? 90% of my customer base are 1-3 man businesses, and Im in revision mode, as far as pricing goes.

FourWheelDrift

92,240 posts

313 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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Don it's not wise to be the first poster to respond as everyone else after will undercut you.

docevi1

10,430 posts

277 months

andysgriff

913 posts

289 months

Friday 15th April 2005
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UKBob said:


Don said:
£750 a day.

And worth every penny.

And half the price of the big consultancies.






In the UK maybe.

$100USD per day here max - and they're damn good..

>> Edited by andysgriff on Friday 15th April 06:54

Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Friday 15th April 2005
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FourWheelDrift said:
Don it's not wise to be the first poster to respond as everyone else after will undercut you.


I'm not bidding for business on this one. I'm advising a fellow PHer about the costs of corporate IT.

Big consultancy: £900 - £1500 per day.
Specialist smaller firm: £750 per day.
Contractor: £300 - £450 per day depending.

All rates subject to uplift for short contracts and significant discount for large purchases. Even the big firms will discount their juniors down to the rate of a Contractor if you buying 'em by the year.

Typically very high rates are charged for short term work (under a week) that are ultra specialist.

For example - if you have a firm which has a software application and only they can install and configure it - that's probably worth the high end of their rates.

I'm afraid generic VB programming isn't as niche, there's a big supply of the expertise and its not worth so much.

Market forces.

stringer_m

152 posts

279 months

Friday 15th April 2005
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I currently earn circa £35 p/h for software development in an Enterprise, operating within a highly regulated market sector. The kind of work is typically full lifecycle plan, build, run etc and requires a cross section of skills (say for example; SQL Server db design, COM development, web development, Win 32 API work etc).

The web services function here pay their contractors between £25 and £45 per hour with the top end ones having a diverse development skill set and the low end ones being more in the design/typographical area.

As others have said your rate should also factor in how in demand your skills are and where your experience is. There are lots and lots of people out there who can do a bit of VB, ASP etc and the rates are correspondingly low.

All the work I've paid graphic designers for has been on the basis a fixed project with clearly stated deliverables and timescales but in reality design attracts (normaly) much lower rates/salary. Take a look at Creative Review for ideas.

Grizzly_law

197 posts

265 months

Friday 15th April 2005
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Don said:

FourWheelDrift said:
Don it's not wise to be the first poster to respond as everyone else after will undercut you.



I'm not bidding for business on this one. I'm advising a fellow PHer about the costs of corporate IT.

Big consultancy: £900 - £1500 per day.
Specialist smaller firm: £750 per day.
Contractor: £300 - £450 per day depending.

All rates subject to uplift for short contracts and significant discount for large purchases. Even the big firms will discount their juniors down to the rate of a Contractor if you buying 'em by the year.

Typically very high rates are charged for short term work (under a week) that are ultra specialist.

For example - if you have a firm which has a software application and only they can install and configure it - that's probably worth the high end of their rates.

I'm afraid generic VB programming isn't as niche, there's a big supply of the expertise and its not worth so much.

Market forces.


I work for a Specailst Smaller firm and Don is bang on. We charge £750 pd standart rate. Cheaper for long term engagements and more when the customer really needs short term specailst help.

_topcat

1,938 posts

278 months

Friday 15th April 2005
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Well i have just worked out what i earn a day. i feel very sick now.
Perhaps time to move to the city!!!

bga

8,134 posts

280 months

Friday 15th April 2005
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Grizzly_law said:



I work for a Specailst Smaller firm and Don is bang on. We charge £750 pd standart rate. Cheaper for long term engagements and more when the customer really needs short term specailst help.




I work for a large consultancy & get charged out at between £1200 & £1400 p/d (more for extra urgent/niche work).
While not working in the particular field myself, colleagues who do that sort of stuff get charged same rate as me.

mattd

195 posts

269 months

Friday 15th April 2005
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I've been under the impression that IT rates had fallen quite a lot in the last few years, so what sort of rates did you guys get in the peak of the dot com days!

lilrallydriver

446 posts

257 months

Friday 15th April 2005
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Hi ya... I work in an IT dept... the contractors are earning between £17.50 per hour up to a ludicrous (not that I'm jealous ) £45.00 per hour... I know this cos I nose at the invoices...

beanbag

7,346 posts

270 months

Friday 15th April 2005
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Ok! This is ALL down to experience!!

Come straight out of uni and you'll get about £10/ph which is what I was initially earning.

Now that's slowly increasing and hopefully, once I get a few professional qualifications under my belt and couple more years experience, £40/ph should be the norm.

JonRB

80,009 posts

301 months

Friday 15th April 2005
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lilrallydriver said:
...up to a ludicrous (not that I'm jealous ) £45.00 per hour...


What's ludicrous about that? I'll bet you'll be paying far more than that per hour when you take your car in for a service.

M@H

11,298 posts

301 months

Friday 15th April 2005
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_topcat said:
Well i have just worked out what i earn a day. i feel very sick now.
Perhaps time to move to the city!!!



Yeah, but this thread is talking about Charge out rates, not what the people doing the work actually get paid.

I used to be charged out at £1100 a day, sadly not actually getting that myself as I was on £42k pa at the time.

Cheers
Matt

dieselnut

327 posts

278 months

Friday 15th April 2005
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It depends where you are in the country... oop norf we're charging out at £375/day for VB development, less if you're buying an entire software package..

For networks it usually goes on piece work putting in cables etc, for the Cisco configuration and the like we're going in at £75-100 an hour depending on client

But that's oop norf non-city stuff, where business rates are cheap and labour is even cheaper !

lilrallydriver

446 posts

257 months

Friday 15th April 2005
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JonRB said:

lilrallydriver said:
...up to a ludicrous (not that I'm jealous ) £45.00 per hour...



What's ludicrous about that? I'll bet you'll be paying far more than that per hour when you take your car in for a service.



Don't you roll your eyes at me, mardy man!

I'm saying it like that as frankly I'm peeved they get paid that much for sitting around gassing all day about irrelevant stuff, and oggling at chicks on the net all day... whilst also being on messenger ... quite the multitaskers, I'll give them that...

I on the other hand get paid peanuts for working my butt off!!

back at ya!!