Rolex submariner
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Shrimpvende

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939 posts

115 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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First post in this section, here goes...

I have a Tag F1 (automatic) that I bought myself as a graduation present and my first 'expensive' watch, certainly felt like it at the time. I've always appreciated watches and my favourite has always been the rolex submariner, or at least that design. Now, a few years after buying the Tag and wearing it daily, I'm in the position to possibly buy a submariner, with my parents offering to contribute as an xmas gift.

But, a quick look through here shows posts of waiting lists and supply problems. Am I unfortunate enough to want a model I'm going to struggle to get hold of? I'd prefer to buy brand new for cash from an AD. I'd probably also prefer a no date model.

My nearest Rolex AD is about 30 miles away, so if this is going to be a non starter I'd rather not waste the time trawling around places to be told I can't have one!

I'm also struggling to find pricing info, from what I can find it seems the model I'm after is around £5.5-6.5k, unless I've got this wrong and I'm way out? If it's all going to be too difficult to sort in the relatively short term I'll hang on for a while, as I'm certainly not desperate and for something like this the buying process should also be enjoyable shouldn't it?!

fergy

279 posts

246 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Last time I discussed a sub with a dealer they quoted 3 months to get one... seemed reasonable.

Shrimpvende

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939 posts

115 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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After some calling around, unfortunately it seems that the facts are the same as I read in previous threads. 12-18 month waiting list which I'd be at the bottom of or buy one secondhand for overs.

I wonder if there's more of them in Geneva or other cities? I could make a weekend break of going to buy/collect it then - would certainly make it more memorable!

andyxxx

1,364 posts

250 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Pricing is on the Rolex website.

You will not manage to negotiate a discount at the moment on that model.
There is a massive shortage of most stainless steel models in the UK at the moment (Daytona and new Skydweller 10 year waiting lists)
Sub waiting lists seem to be up to a few years depending on model, but the black/no date is probably one of the easiest to get hold of

However I would be surprised if you manage to get one within 3 to 6 months!

DJMC

3,584 posts

126 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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When I was looking at getting a new SubC Date in July I found one for sale at a local-ish AD in my first phone call, another local AD said I could have next month's. Is the No Date more tricky to find?

How many Ads have you called?

FindingMenno

40 posts

210 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Quick trip to Amsterdam to pick up a 'tax free' model. They usually have stock.

andyxxx

1,364 posts

250 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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DJMC said:
When I was looking at getting a new SubC Date in July I found one for sale at a local-ish AD in my first phone call, another local AD said I could have next month's. Is the No Date more tricky to find?

How many Ads have you called?
No dates are probably slightly easier to get hold of as are bi metal but things have changed at the UK ADs since July (and from my reading of other forums worldwide)

Ayahuasca

27,560 posts

302 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Have you looked at the Sea Dweller? - it is like a Submariner but it has a date and no cyclops lens.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

219 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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And yet I got a “hard to get hold of” BLNR GMT within 3 months.

There’s a no date ceramic 2014 I can get for less than list at my local jewellers, it’s been in the window for weeks.

Master Bean

4,896 posts

143 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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I got a BLNR in 4 days. Probably just got lucky but if you ring around and don't live in London everything should be straight forward.

Sy1441

1,283 posts

183 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Master Bean said:
I got a BLNR in 4 days. Probably just got lucky but if you ring around and don't live in London everything should be straight forward.
There was a SS sub in Laings in Glasgow today, not a particularly difficult watch to get for retail.

OGR4M

878 posts

176 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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The waiting lists are a bit of a farce (in some cases) in my opinion.

I have a no-date sub, and was quoted 12 months plus from WoS in B'ham, but when I waddled down the road to Goldsmith's in the Bullring, I was told to expect a wait of about 6 weeks, but they gave me a call after about 6 days - and was on my wrist that afternoon.

I'm well aware that SOME of the waiting lists are very hefty at the moment (currently waiting my turn on a Hulk), but I feel like the waiting lists have become elongated because of the imminent price rise, and the common speculation held by Joe Public that Rolex is withholding stock until the change has been implemented.

Of course, someone will be along to berate my opinion, I'm sure. But long story short, 12 months may end up being 1 week, although perhaps I'm the exception to the rule...

SimboRS

214 posts

121 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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I was in Laing in Glasgow last week and I noticed they had a very small selection of Rolex on, compared to what it was this time last year. Never noticed the SS sub but I did think the selection they had was very poor

raceboy

13,639 posts

303 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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A No date Sub, 114060, wink should be £5,450 from an AD, and although some stores will have more watches through them than others the wait really shouldn't be that long, although getting it for Christmas morning might be a long shot, just play the long game, go in, sign up, pay a deposit if they want one and then enjoy the wait, and the anticipation of 'the call' it'll be sooner than they probably quote and I think adds a little to the whole ownership game.

http://www.goldsmiths.co.uk/c/Brands/Rolex/

OGR4M

878 posts

176 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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raceboy said:
just play the long game, go in, sign up, pay a deposit if they want one and then enjoy the wait, and the anticipation of 'the call' it'll be sooner than they probably quote and I think adds a little to the whole ownership game.
What he said! I was so chuffed to get mine I drove into the centre of brum at rush hour, then I was the happiest person stuck in traffic going home.

James_B

12,642 posts

280 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Shrimpvende said:
After some calling around, unfortunately it seems that the facts are the same as I read in previous threads. 12-18 month waiting list which I'd be at the bottom of or buy one secondhand for overs.

I wonder if there's more of them in Geneva or other cities? I could make a weekend break of going to buy/collect it then - would certainly make it more memorable!
I walked into the shop in Geneva Airport, and bought a Daytona from stock a few years back, and a submariner a year later.

After buying those, they were willing to get me a ceramic Daytona relatively quickly, so do seem to do better than I’ve found the shops in the UK can.

kilarney

490 posts

246 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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I p/x my TAG for an as new 2010 sub last year and no regrets. Never warmed to the TAG which was new and wanted the earlier pre ceramic sub so used was my only option. I would seriously consider a box perfect used if you cant land a new one.

cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

141 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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Get on the waiting list, you'll likely be surprised. A lot of the waiting list thing is hype in my opinion.

Has it got to be a ceramic? If i wanted a no date, I'd go second hand and get a 14060m 2 line, that has had a recent service.

Mark83

1,381 posts

224 months

Sunday 10th December 2017
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Similar situation as the OP even down to the same current watch.

Looking to buy a SS, black face with date for my wedding in Sept 18.

I spoke to an AD as I was passing through Westfield and was quoted three months.

I guess my only query to where to buy. If there’s no discounts to be had, why pick one AD over the other? I guess I’d look to place a deposit in the Spring.

critical mass

153 posts

128 months

Sunday 10th December 2017
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Chronext advertising both date and no-date Submariners at list price for Christmas delivery.