Vehicle Left Abandoned on Private Property.....Options?
Vehicle Left Abandoned on Private Property.....Options?
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Planter

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410 posts

152 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Hi all,

So, I have done a bit of googling and as normal this has confused matters more.

My parents have lived in their current property for approx 6-7 years now, which they own outright. When they purchased this land and property it had an old run down Land Rover on, the edge of the land, this is covered in loads of cr*p and is pretty beaten up and has never been moved or cleaned off since they took ownership of the land.

Ive had a good look round this and done some DVLA checks which show no up to date or historical MOT history and last time this was taxed was 1993.

Nobody has ever been to claim this or take ownership of this.

How do I go about making an attempt to claim this Land Rover and take ownership of it? If at all possible?

Thanks in advance

Andyhb

63 posts

162 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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On the edge? Is it on their land or not? Was it mentioned when they signed for the land?

Hpi? Could be stolen and dumped.

You have to take steps to contact the previous owner which I imagine wouldn't be too difficult given the short period of time your parents have owned the land

AJB88

15,859 posts

201 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Think there is a form you can fill in to request details from them and explain its on your land.

Planter

Original Poster:

410 posts

152 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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On their land, just on the edge of the land. Sorry I wasnt more specific.

As for contact of previous owners, the gent who lived their previously died, and the property came up for auction.

That is the extent of the history of the LR.

Andyhb

63 posts

162 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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His estate will probably have went through probate, your parents solicitor will know the sellers solicitor, contact them to see if it was accounted for in the probate.

Planter

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410 posts

152 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Andyhb said:
His estate will probably have went through probate, your parents solicitor will know the sellers solicitor, contact them to see if it was accounted for in the probate.
That sounds obvious enough, however, cant be assed with the undoubtable fees a solicitor will charge to make a simple phone call.

Was wondering if there were any ways to contact DVLA or any specific forms to just send off and query.

Thank you for the idea though as makes sense

R0G

5,036 posts

185 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Contact local council and police for suggestions

Firstly check it out online - Gov vehicle tax/mot and askmid for insurance - that info may be useful to the above

Planter

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410 posts

152 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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R0G said:
Contact local council and police for suggestions

Firstly check it out online - Gov vehicle tax/mot and askmid for insurance - that info may be useful to the above
Have checked all of that on Askmid and not insured/not taxed since 1993 and no MOT history logged.

I will contact council tomorrow and check with them

Thank you

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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You may struggle to get the council or Police to remove the car as it’s on private land.
Fill in the dvla form to get a log book for the car, the dvla will usually write to the last keeper to ask them, I doubt they will get a reply and they’ll issue the v5 to you.
Someone with more knowledge than me on civil matters may confirm that after 6 years the last owner may not have a claim.

Fastpedeller

4,354 posts

176 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Faz50 said:
You may struggle to get the council or Police to remove the car as it’s on private land.
Fill in the dvla form to get a log book for the car, the dvla will usually write to the last keeper to ask them, I doubt they will get a reply and they’ll issue the v5 to y
Op may not want the car 'removed' - he may want to keep/sell it as it has a value.

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Fastpedeller said:
Op may not want the car 'removed' - he may want to keep/sell it as it has a value.
I think that’s the only input either of them would have other than to suggest scrapping it or claiming it as your own.

Andyhb

63 posts

162 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Planter said:
Have checked all of that on Askmid and not insured/not taxed since 1993 and no MOT history logged.

I will contact council tomorrow and check with them

Thank you
I assume you want to restore it? Be careful about ringing council as they might just lift and scrap! Have a good look on Google I'm sure people have done this before.

Planter

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410 posts

152 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Andyhb said:
I assume you want to restore it? Be careful about ringing council as they might just lift and scrap! Have a good look on Google I'm sure people have done this before.
Yes. Fair point.

Just to clarify my aim would be to take ownership and restore this.

I think I'll contact dvla. As from what I can see, if I aim to take ownership with a v5, The dvla will contact previous owners and it will be taken from there. So either way, the existing owners would take the vehicle back or I would take ownership.

So win win really. Thank all.

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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There is no way that you can simply acquire ownership of an abandoned vehicle. You can become its registered keeper. In the perhaps unlikely event that the owner ever shows up, you'd have to hand it over.

In certain circumstances a person storing a vehicle can obtain the right to sell it. See the Torts (Interference with Goods ) Act 1977.

Hi

1,363 posts

208 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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You can apply for the V5 from the DVLA but that will not mean you own the car, you will just be the keeper.

To legally own the car you need to find out who owns it and buy it/swap it/be given it etc. (if it belonged to the old chap who passed then it could well belong to his estate, or it could belong to your parents if included in the sale of the land)

Planter

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410 posts

152 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Thats really helpful, thanks guys/girls. Much appreciated.

Planter

Original Poster:

410 posts

152 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Thats really helpful, thanks guys/girls. Much appreciated.

Fastpedeller

4,354 posts

176 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
There is no way that you can simply acquire ownership of an abandoned vehicle. You can become its registered keeper. In the perhaps unlikely event that the owner ever shows up, you'd have to hand it over.

In certain circumstances a person storing a vehicle can obtain the right to sell it. See the Torts (Interference with Goods ) Act 1977.
If becoming the registered keeper (and having it 'stored' on your land), could you invoice an owner (for the storage) who subsequently turns up to claim the vehicle? If so, the long term storage costs could well exceed the value of the vehicle?

CAPP0

20,881 posts

233 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
There is no way that you can simply acquire ownership of an abandoned vehicle. You can become its registered keeper. In the perhaps unlikely event that the owner ever shows up, you'd have to hand it over.

In certain circumstances a person storing a vehicle can obtain the right to sell it. See the Torts (Interference with Goods ) Act 1977.
Genuine question - if it was there when your parents bought the property (was it?) then did it not become theirs at the time of purchase?

If you bought a house with a garage and there was a car in there when you took possession, does that car not then become yours? Along with the curtains, the greenhouse and the kitchen sink?

Dicky Knee

1,100 posts

161 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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CAPP0 said:
Breadvan72 said:
There is no way that you can simply acquire ownership of an abandoned vehicle. You can become its registered keeper. In the perhaps unlikely event that the owner ever shows up, you'd have to hand it over.

In certain circumstances a person storing a vehicle can obtain the right to sell it. See the Torts (Interference with Goods ) Act 1977.
Genuine question - if it was there when your parents bought the property (was it?) then did it not become theirs at the time of purchase?

If you bought a house with a garage and there was a car in there when you took possession, does that car not then become yours? Along with the curtains, the greenhouse and the kitchen sink?
I was wondering about this as well particularly as the property was bought at auction. Did the lot they bought include everything on the land?