Council workers & speed traps..
Discussion
Hardly surprising given the BBC report:
"English councils generated £819m from parking fees and fines in 2016-17, an increase of 10% on the previous year, a study has suggested.
This figure represents income from parking charges and penalty notices with running costs deducted."
They'll all want a piece of that.
"English councils generated £819m from parking fees and fines in 2016-17, an increase of 10% on the previous year, a study has suggested.
This figure represents income from parking charges and penalty notices with running costs deducted."
They'll all want a piece of that.
Riley Blue said:
OpulentBob said:
"Community speedwatch" by another name. Pre-set sites - not random hedgerows - give them a speed gun and a clipboard, they write down the numberplates, and then pass to plod to do the points/fines.
Community Speedwatch aren't enforcers.Have you read the article?
"Any information caught on the cameras will be forwarded to Essex Police which will have the sole responsibility to issue fines or points."
By some sort of serendipity on the page the OP linked to was this linked article about a driver causing the deaths of two pedestrians.
Seems he was out of his tree after an "18 hour cocaine binge" and legged it from the scene. One witness describes him as "driving like a nutter"
http://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/chelmsfo...
Until there is a return to proper roads policing all these community speedwatch initiatives / average speed cameras are just a sop to appease some vocal locals but they mainly to generate some cash.
The only people likely to get prosecuted are the normally law abiding folk going a few mph over the limit who have a car properly registered to their home address, that is also likely to be taxed, insured and MOT'd.
The scrotes like our enjoyer of recreational pharmaceuticals / the drunks, / pool car users, etc. won't give a toss. Or be caught.
Seems he was out of his tree after an "18 hour cocaine binge" and legged it from the scene. One witness describes him as "driving like a nutter"
http://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/chelmsfo...
Until there is a return to proper roads policing all these community speedwatch initiatives / average speed cameras are just a sop to appease some vocal locals but they mainly to generate some cash.
The only people likely to get prosecuted are the normally law abiding folk going a few mph over the limit who have a car properly registered to their home address, that is also likely to be taxed, insured and MOT'd.
The scrotes like our enjoyer of recreational pharmaceuticals / the drunks, / pool car users, etc. won't give a toss. Or be caught.
55palfers said:
By some sort of serendipity on the page the OP linked to was this linked article about a driver causing the deaths of two pedestrians.
Seems he was out of his tree after an "18 hour cocaine binge" and legged it from the scene. One witness describes him as "driving like a nutter"
http://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/chelmsfo...
Until there is a return to proper roads policing all these community speedwatch initiatives / average speed cameras are just a sop to appease some vocal locals but they mainly to generate some cash.
The only people likely to get prosecuted are the normally law abiding folk going a few mph over the limit who have a car properly registered to their home address, that is also likely to be taxed, insured and MOT'd.
The scrotes like our enjoyer of recreational pharmaceuticals / the drunks, / pool car users, etc. won't give a toss. Or be caught.
There is an element of that, most speed surveys will show 85 percentiles that are compliant with the limit with a few high speeds. These will amount to 1-2% of drivers but that's not what the locals witness or often believe when you produce the evidence. Seems he was out of his tree after an "18 hour cocaine binge" and legged it from the scene. One witness describes him as "driving like a nutter"
http://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/chelmsfo...
Until there is a return to proper roads policing all these community speedwatch initiatives / average speed cameras are just a sop to appease some vocal locals but they mainly to generate some cash.
The only people likely to get prosecuted are the normally law abiding folk going a few mph over the limit who have a car properly registered to their home address, that is also likely to be taxed, insured and MOT'd.
The scrotes like our enjoyer of recreational pharmaceuticals / the drunks, / pool car users, etc. won't give a toss. Or be caught.
When people demand "something must be done" you end up with traffic calming or this!
It doesn't take a genius to work this out
Speed cameras and all this stuff are a very, very easy way for councils to make money because the majority of people speed at some time, and they can dress it up as being about saving lives.
Other than buying land and selling it of course.
God forbid they do what they bloody well ought to and put pu council tax. Why not leave that as a last resort and do utter crap like this instead of using that money getting these people holding cameras, put it towards recruiting some more bloody coppers for Gods sake.
Speed cameras and all this stuff are a very, very easy way for councils to make money because the majority of people speed at some time, and they can dress it up as being about saving lives.
Other than buying land and selling it of course.
God forbid they do what they bloody well ought to and put pu council tax. Why not leave that as a last resort and do utter crap like this instead of using that money getting these people holding cameras, put it towards recruiting some more bloody coppers for Gods sake.
OpulentBob said:
Riley Blue said:
OpulentBob said:
"Community speedwatch" by another name. Pre-set sites - not random hedgerows - give them a speed gun and a clipboard, they write down the numberplates, and then pass to plod to do the points/fines.
Community Speedwatch aren't enforcers.Have you read the article?
"Any information caught on the cameras will be forwarded to Essex Police which will have the sole responsibility to issue fines or points."
REALIST123 said:
Hardly surprising given the BBC report:
"English councils generated £819m from parking fees and fines in 2016-17, an increase of 10% on the previous year, a study has suggested.
This figure represents income from parking charges and penalty notices with running costs deducted."
They'll all want a piece of that.
However the fines issues are all paid straight to the government leaving the cost of enforcement down to the council and the police"English councils generated £819m from parking fees and fines in 2016-17, an increase of 10% on the previous year, a study has suggested.
This figure represents income from parking charges and penalty notices with running costs deducted."
They'll all want a piece of that.
Cooperman said:
So the police have the resources to trawl through loads of dash-cam footage, but claim to have insufficient resources to investigate and prosecute robberies, burglaries and shop-lifting.
An aspect of investigation is probability of detection. It's not just about severity of the alleged offence. Similar 'upload' schemes are more cost / time effective as it puts the burden on the person who has filmed it, as opposed to them calling the police and expecting them to come out, missing appointments etc. It also can be someone's specific job to review them so there's consistency, better processes etc.
If the powers that be wanted to stop speeding they could do so. Simply pass legislation that all new cars must be fitted with GPS systems that restrict the speed according to the limit in place at the car's location. It could be switched off if the driver wished, but it would record still record the data and fines would be issued accordingly.
Owners of existing vehicles would be required to have a black box fitted that records speed against location and fines would also be issued automatically.
The technology is tried and trusted and has been around for years.
Of course they won't do it because the revenue would disappear. There can be no clearer example of why catching speeding motorists is primarily about raising cash.
Owners of existing vehicles would be required to have a black box fitted that records speed against location and fines would also be issued automatically.
The technology is tried and trusted and has been around for years.
Of course they won't do it because the revenue would disappear. There can be no clearer example of why catching speeding motorists is primarily about raising cash.
SCEtoAUX said:
If the powers that be wanted to stop speeding they could do so. Simply pass legislation that all new cars must be fitted with GPS systems that restrict the speed according to the limit in place at the car's location. It could be switched off if the driver wished, but it would record still record the data and fines would be issued accordingly.
Owners of existing vehicles would be required to have a black box fitted that records speed against location and fines would also be issued automatically.
The technology is tried and trusted and has been around for years.
Of course they won't do it because the revenue would disappear. There can be no clearer example of why catching speeding motorists is primarily about raising cash.
It’s also because we don’t live in a police state. Individuals still have freedoms. They could add controls for all sorts of behaviours (breath tests at pubs in case you are damaging your health, etc)Owners of existing vehicles would be required to have a black box fitted that records speed against location and fines would also be issued automatically.
The technology is tried and trusted and has been around for years.
Of course they won't do it because the revenue would disappear. There can be no clearer example of why catching speeding motorists is primarily about raising cash.
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