Quick HR question - is this fair or right?
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Hi all
I work for a University on a leadership programme, 0.8FTE. Have done so for 5+ years. I have a new collegue doing the same job (delivering leadership training, Masterclasses etc), who started 10 months ago on 0.5FTE and was only recently increased to full time.
We are EU funded, and recently found out the good news that we are to have the project extended for 3 years from the end of our current contracts next June.
We all had one on one meetings about the new arrangements today. I was very suprised to hear that my post will be reduced down from 1/7/18 to 0.5FTE. Reason given - tight budget. My collegue (who I get on with really well) has had no such reduction - she is staying full time.
So I'm feeling pretty annoyed. I don't massively get on with my manager, she's not massively competent - but there have been no real overt issues and I have an exemplary HR record.
At worst this seems unfair, but is there anything I should do/ involve HR? Could this be seen as effective redundancy? I can't afford to be on a 2.5 day contract....views? It is very tempting to get very cross very quickly!
I work for a University on a leadership programme, 0.8FTE. Have done so for 5+ years. I have a new collegue doing the same job (delivering leadership training, Masterclasses etc), who started 10 months ago on 0.5FTE and was only recently increased to full time.
We are EU funded, and recently found out the good news that we are to have the project extended for 3 years from the end of our current contracts next June.
We all had one on one meetings about the new arrangements today. I was very suprised to hear that my post will be reduced down from 1/7/18 to 0.5FTE. Reason given - tight budget. My collegue (who I get on with really well) has had no such reduction - she is staying full time.
So I'm feeling pretty annoyed. I don't massively get on with my manager, she's not massively competent - but there have been no real overt issues and I have an exemplary HR record.
At worst this seems unfair, but is there anything I should do/ involve HR? Could this be seen as effective redundancy? I can't afford to be on a 2.5 day contract....views? It is very tempting to get very cross very quickly!
tombar said:
It would be a new contract. I've had 5 years of contract extensions!
Don't you automatically become a permanent employee after two years, so if you refuse to accept the new contract then presumably they'd have to make you redundant.Is it really correct that one employee can have their hours reduced without going through any kind of process that involves the other employee doing exactly the same work? If so, that does seem unfair.
Thanks. That's just about my view too. I thought I might have stronger rights after 5.5 years; it would be good to get some confirmation on your first paragraph, Sheepshanks.
What makes me sick is that we were carrying a 0.5 fte vacant post doing what we do, for a few months. This got offered to my colleague, bringing her up to full time, just over a month ago ,(when they fully knew what was being put into the funding bid in terms of posts). Why didn't they just drop the vacant post, if they wanted to save money? Crazy.
What makes me sick is that we were carrying a 0.5 fte vacant post doing what we do, for a few months. This got offered to my colleague, bringing her up to full time, just over a month ago ,(when they fully knew what was being put into the funding bid in terms of posts). Why didn't they just drop the vacant post, if they wanted to save money? Crazy.
tombar said:
So I'm feeling pretty annoyed. I don't massively get on with my manager, she's not massively competent - but there have been no real overt issues and I have an exemplary HR record.
I'd guess that ^^^ is the reason you're hours are being reduced and your colelague's aren't. You don't like your boss, she's clearly aware of it and so, when she's had to make a choice as to who she'd rather work with, she's opted for your colleague. Bosses prefer people who make their life as stress-free as possible.
Has your institution got a well organised FTC employee redeployment process? Might be worth talking to them, even though you are not out of contract in the way of their usual audience, to see if anyone else in the University has got 0.3-0.5 FTE roles that suit.
Edited by Dr Slotter on Tuesday 28th November 20:57
Chozza said:
Is your colleague better than you?
Or gets better feedback on course delivery?
This is likely to be the deciding factor
She's pretty good, yes. I came to this from a redeployment position where I was managing a social enterprise project at the Uni, a very different job and one I greatly prefer! Or gets better feedback on course delivery?
This is likely to be the deciding factor
Nevertheless I've learned and developed myself into the role and I certainly get good feedback.
I can't do multiple quotes but in response to Dr Slotter's comment - that's what I'm hanging on for. My previous project (that I loved!) is hopefully being resurrected in the Spring and I've been told I'm wanted to run it, although there are lots of variables that might get in the way of that with the vagaries of EU funding.
Lucky me, I guess, perhaps I should just shut up and take the long view, my nose is just put out of joint a bit and I wanted to know if I should cause a bit of fuss about it.
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