X1 help needed

[omariqy]

So I am trading in my 320d M Sport Business Edition 59 plate for an X1. I went to the local dealer this past weekend as they are doing good deals on the x1. After much discussion I agreed to go for and X1 SDrive 18d X Line. I wanted adaptive dampers but was told that it wasn't needed for this range even though this car had the larger 19 inch wheels. Further, they didn't have something like that in stock that would be here by the deadline to qualify for the deal.

Fast forward to today and apparently they can't get the car so they've offered me an M Sport X Drive 18d. Now they've offered me the same deal for a far expensive car. However, I'm really worried about the ride and comfort of the M Sport. I prefer a softer ride especially with the family in the back. Should I be worried? Can you get adaptive dampers installed afterwards?

[Mike335i]

Might be talking nonsense, but does the Xdrive preclude the sport suspension, or was that just on the 3 series? Might end up being the same as what you were expecting anyway. But that might not be true so don't hold me to it!

[rassi]

I would have thought adaptive dampers could be specced on the X1? You didn’t test drive the X1 on passive with 19”?

[omariqy]

Basically the deal is till end of November so I can only buy whatever is in stock. I test drove an X Line with 18 inch wheels as that's all they had at the showroom.

[Smuler]

omariqy said:

So I am trading in my 320d M Sport Business Edition 59 plate for an X1. I went to the local dealer this past weekend as they are doing good deals on the x1. After much discussion I agreed to go for and X1 SDrive 18d X Line. I wanted adaptive dampers but was told that it wasn't needed for this range even though this car had the larger 19 inch wheels. Further, they didn't have something like that in stock that would be here by the deadline to qualify for the deal.

Fast forward to today and apparently they can't get the car so they've offered me an M Sport X Drive 18d. Now they've offered me the same deal for a far expensive car. However, I'm really worried about the ride and comfort of the M Sport. I prefer a softer ride especially with the family in the back. Should I be worried? Can you get adaptive dampers installed afterwards?

Not sure if this reply's too late, but if it helps :-

I tried a X1 M Sport 20d X Drive twice with 19 inch wheels and Run flat tires (RFT) and whilst the ride wasn't bad, it wasn't satisfactory in terms of comfort. My passenger felt the same.

Neither car had adaptive dampers.

From previous experience the biggest problem is the RFTs but 19 inch wheels with ordinary tires I've still found less comfortable and as the X1 was to carry passengers I didn't want to risk it.

So I ordered mine with 18 inch wheels and non RFTs.

I did spend 150£ on the Adaptive Dampers as a back-up, but I always keep them in sport so there's really no need for them.

I find it very comfortable and yes it does still have M Sport Suspension so it handles really well.

I don't believe adaptive dampers can be added after build.

Maybe they can put some 18 inch wheels, with non RFts, on it for you?


Any other Qs, let me know.

[omariqy]

Thank you. I believe the tyres for the M Sport are 18 inch and not 19 inch. They haven't specifically specified that the tyres are run flats so I image it will be the tyre mobility system that they offer and normal tyres. Do you feel it's comfortable enough without the dampers?

[Smuler]

omariqy said:

Thank you. I believe the tyres for the M Sport are 18 inch and not 19 inch. They haven't specifically specified that the tyres are run flats so I image it will be the tyre mobility system that they offer and normal tyres. Do you feel it's comfortable enough without the dampers?

Standard M Sport build is 18 inch, yes.
I mentioned 19 as I assumed you were buying an already built car, and as far as I understand they can have options fitted, thus there could've been 19s.

I'd say an 18 inch, non RFT, M Sport rides very comfortable. So, yes, with hindsight I wouldn't have bought the Adaptive Dampers as sport (which I/m told is default M Sport) is great.
All passengers front and back agree.

[omariqy]

Thanks. I've just checked and apparently they are 18 inch run flats.

[Smuler]

omariqy said:

Thanks. I've just checked and apparently they are 18 inch run flats.

It's possible that on 18inches RFTs are not going to be so bad, but if you can't get BMW dealer to change at point of sale when they wear out and / or when you want to change, if earlier, just switch to non RFTs.

I have the Bridgestone Turanzas non RFTs for future reference. Very good.


They don't seem plentiful, at least at the moment, so keep a 'weather eye' on tread so you're planning in advance when time comes to change.

As the car, even as X drive, usually sends power to front wheels, their tyres will wear out first so what I did was rotate the wheels to make the set of 4 last longer.

I've done 16k miles since it was brand new in March. It's a very good daily driver.

[omariqy]

Thanks. If I change to non run flats does that invalidate the warranty or my insurance?

[Smuler]

omariqy said:

Thanks. If I change to non run flats does that invalidate the warranty or my insurance?

When I made the change, on a previous car, I got it confirmed in writing from BMW that it did not. You may wish to do the same.
Insurance companies are all different, so I can say it had no affect on the ones I've used. I think they LV and Aviva.

The only thing I would advise is that you buy from a reputable tire dealer and make the sure you buy BMW specification tires as my local trusted tyre guy say the X models can be sensitive to having 'the wrong tires' such as those, whilst the same size, manufactured, say, with Audi in mind.

Even if you can't get the dealer to change to non RFT at point of sale, they will surely know what non RFT tires fit, get the details and then buy (presumably) cheaper elsewhere in future.

The X1 has a very good tire pressure monitoring system, so you will get advance warning of a decline in pressure and any slow punctures can be picked up early and thus potentially repaired.

[omariqy]

Perfect thank you.

[DJMC]

omariqy said:

Thanks. If I change to non run flats does that invalidate the warranty or my insurance?

18" run flats are a COST option at £180, so check.

We tried 19" with RFTs but horrible ride. 18" non RF is the way to go. We have standard suspension and it's fine.

Strangely the car came on Pirelli P7s which Pirelli don't make in that size? See my other thread...

[Smuler]

@DJMC for your info Bridgestone gave 27 December as the delivery date for the BMW spec Turanzas.

[DJMC]

Smuler said:

@DJMC for your info Bridgestone gave 27 December as the delivery date for the BMW spec Turanzas.

Thanks. My tyre dealer has managed to find a few P7s. But Camskill reckon the BMW * 18" PZero is the better tyre.
I'm still at 3mm fronts so I'll have a brief think.