Is it Me???

[wpresland]

In the Times today:

"The Mayor of London has promised to provide romm on buses for an extra 11,000 passengers in the morning peak hour to cope with about 20,000 car drivers switching to public transport each day"

Glad to know someone is good at maths...

Oh, another article (small print) mentions a recommendation that some south coast towns (Brighton and Hove, Southampton and Portsmouth) need tolls to prevent gridlock.

Then they'll be tolls for culturally important towns, towns with administrative centres (just in case) villages (gridlock...), a toll outside your house...


Here we go again...

[DrSeuss]

Yes, I noticed that as well. And that's based on the assumption that each car only contains a driver and no passengers - obviously nonsense, so that's maybe 40,000+ people chasing 11,000 extra spaces on buses once congestion charging comes in. Oh, and Red Ken's constant fiddling with the timing of traffic lights, plus totally unco-ordinated roadworks, are playing havoc with bus services anyway. He's already succeeded in bringing average speeds in central London down from 11mph to under 4mph during his dictatorship - I'm watching with fascination to see when he'll finally succeed in bringing one of the world's major business centres to a total standstill.

[superflid]

Maybe this is to take into account the 9,000 empty seats on buses.............

[CarZee]

And to cope with the extra people, you can bet they'll make buses all 'standing room only' before they provide more buses...

And the passengers went Moooooo!

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or "Baaaa", even...

H

[plotloss]

Grrr, another great policy introduced by everyones favourite nutter Ken 'The Red' Livingstone.

Why oh why cant the government just accept the fact that whatever provision they provide its just not going to be as effecient as promoting tele-working.

If they really want to get people out of their cars, they should get them out of their offices, no journey at all is infinitely better than a journey by double decker scum carrying decreped unwashed transport.

Matt.

[mondeoman]

quote:"The Mayor of London has promised to provide romm on buses for an extra 11,000 passengers in the morning peak hour to cope with about 20,000 car drivers switching to public transport each day"

Glad to know someone is good at maths...

So in a week that means we need 100,000 new spaces, in a month that'll be 430,000 - at an average of, what - 50 people per bus, that makes 8600 new buses required (just in the first month....). At something like £70 - 100k per bus thats a minimum £602 million!! Who's gonna write that check?? ANd how do people get to where th buses are in the first place - oooh that'll be the trains and more car parks required.

FERKIN IJJITS!!! Ill-thought out and stupid.

Stupid numbers and totally ridiculous scenario...

[hertsbiker]

riding through Leytonstone the other day, I notice some clever person has made the bus stop areas overlap the road, so traffic stops.... or has to overtake head-to-head with oncoming traffic. Very clever indeed! well done that man. Luckily on a bike it's laughably easy to bypass this nonsense, EXCEPT they have put humps in all over the place. Grrrr. :angry:

[big rumbly]

Same in Palmers Green
Cretins

[pdv6]

Speaking of cretins, you know the 'traffic calming' (always thought that sounds like a misnomer) measures where a lump of concrete gets dumped into alternate lanes with silly little 'give way' markings? Well, there's a road around here where they've put a similar scheme in place, except that the concrete is on both sides of the road, leaving a narrow gap in the centre of the road, with no markings at all to define right of way.

I'm counting the minutes until 2 daydreaming numpties meet head to head and either (a) have an accident & block the road for hours or (b) both stop and cause gridlock whilst they try to get their brains around the problem...

[filmidget]

In Nottingham they have deliberately moved the bus stops from the bus stop laybys into the main carriageway, so blocking half the road when the bus stops - very fustrating.

But also dangerous 'cos now you have people trying to overtake the bus obviously on wrong side of the road. But also means anybody silly enough to try and cross in front of the bus is now standing in the middle of the road to do so ( where as before at least they were on the footway).

Also in one spot, to move the stop away from the layby, they have moved it down the road a distance... to within the zig-zag area after zebra crossing!

But this is the City Council who have also just burnt off the yellow box area (you know - do not enter unless exit is clear) that they recently laid UP TO the entrance to a roundabout, while in doing so removed the give way type line at the roundabout.

That didn't cause much confusion

Sometimes I despair. Well no, a lot of the time I despair.

Cheers, Phil

>> Edited by filmidget on Wednesday 11th September 16:48

[Dazren]

quote:
......I notice some clever person has made the bus stop areas overlap the road, so traffic stops.... or has to overtake head-to-head with oncoming traffic.............

As I understand it these alterations to bus stops have been popping up all over the place as part of a defined plan to prioritise bus journeys over cars.

So it's not "some clever person", it's bloody deliberate!!

DAZ

[pdv6]

Aaaaaaaaargh!