CBR650F vs CB650F Insurance differences?!
CBR650F vs CB650F Insurance differences?!
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Cjmeek

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8 posts

146 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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Evenin All,

New rider here & I've been looking at the CBR650F & CB650F and as far as I'm aware reading reviews the engines are the exact same however for insurance the CBR is much more expensive than the CB.

This would be my first bike if that has anything to do with the premium differences and it's in London....


Cheers!

itcaptainslow

4,813 posts

167 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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Nick-ability, faring to damage in a drop and increased likelihood to be ridden in a brisker manner will contribute-a mate had similar issues when looking at these himself.

AlunJ

171 posts

194 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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Worth sitting on both. I had my heart set on the CB but compared to the CBR I much preferred sitting on that and bought one as my first big bike.

Cjmeek

Original Poster:

8 posts

146 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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Thought it might be due to the CBR looking more attractive to theives but it's some jump and I prefer the bikes with fairings!

Looks like I might end up down the SV650S with full fairing route for a reasonable quote.

I was at Motorcycle Live and only really sat on sport bikes as that's what I like however I'll be at the London show in Feb to try all the likes of the CB650/MT07 etc

Loyly

18,295 posts

190 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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Is there really that much difference between the two prices?

Cjmeek

Original Poster:

8 posts

146 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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Loyly said:
Is there really that much difference between the two prices?
Unfortunately approx £1200 of a difference!!! This would be first bike straight after DAS.




kiethton

14,668 posts

211 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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fking hell, that's fully comp I assume?

Was faced with similar myself last year - £3k fully comp on my CBR600F after my DAS and a couple of bike claims...I went TPO for £800 and bought a <£1k bike...

WarnieV6GT

1,447 posts

230 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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Christ!!

I presume your young which I would much rather be dont get me wrong but 3 weeks ago i insured a cb600f hornet for £131 tpft 30mins after passing test. I'm 38 though so nearly middle aged...

Get the naked one and enjoy the power delivery which should be lower down the rev range and it WILL be far more comfortable. Use the £1200 for fuel and upgrades.

Cjmeek

Original Poster:

8 posts

146 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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Yep young guy at 27 and in London, it's not a good combination.

Funnily enough if I was still in Scotland, I am quoted the exact same price for both CB & CBR, still not cheap by any means!


itcaptainslow

4,813 posts

167 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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Jesus. I insured a new VFR800 at 28 as my first big bike for £700 fully comp and thought that was bad!

Best wind my neck in biggrin

Biker 1

8,609 posts

150 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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yikes Holy st - £6k insurance!!! Nearly as much as the bike....
I'm guessing the difference between the CB & CBR is to do with price difference of the machines, the R is more of a sportsbike & therefore more nickable & also more likely to be ridden over-zealously, therefore making you a higher risk.
Anyway, motor, frame, brakes, wheels & even the seat are identical for both bikes; the R just has lower 'bars & a fairing.
I had a CB650F a couple of year back (pre-facelift). Utterly reliable, easy to ride, excellent brakes, top finish, kind to tyres & chain. I loved the exhaust, but it wasn't quite loud enough.

PTF

4,456 posts

255 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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At those prices i'd definitely be looking at TPFT. The excess and cost of the policy are almost half the cost of the bike! So the insurers are pretty much saying there's a 50:50 chance you'll either stack it, or it'll get nicked!

Don't think i paid anywhere near that to insure my FZS600 fazer with 0 NCD fresh after my test, but that was 15 yrs ago and nowhere near london. Might have been in the £300-£500 range possibly.

Have you looked at other types of bikes? 10-15+ yrs old stuff counts as classics and are much cheaper to insure under classic policies. And bikes that old are still reliable. My VFR800 is 19 yrs old now and rock solid. My insurers wanted an additional £8 to add my blackbird to my fleet when i picked that up earlier this year, fully comp for 2x riders (me + dad), unlimited mileage.

BuzzBravado

2,949 posts

202 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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Thats insane. i was 32 when i started 2 years ago. Insured my CBR600F for £250'ish. As keithton said buy a cheap bike so you dont need fully comp. All you really need is TPFT, espcially the theft bit.

Edited by BuzzBravado on Monday 4th December 10:21

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

198 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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Get an old SV, you will drop the CB/CBR and will be very annoyed. Build up you riding history then get your CBR. My first big bike was an SV which felt fast. The bought an EX demo 2012 CBR600f which is a touch more powerfull than you bike and it felt very fast, and chucked me off outside my house rolleyes

Gavia

7,627 posts

122 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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PTF said:
At those prices i'd definitely be looking at TPFT. The excess and cost of the policy are almost half the cost of the bike! So the insurers are pretty much saying there's a 50:50 chance you'll either stack it, or it'll get nicked!

Don't think i paid anywhere near that to insure my FZS600 fazer with 0 NCD fresh after my test, but that was 15 yrs ago and nowhere near london. Might have been in the £300-£500 range possibly.

Have you looked at other types of bikes? 10-15+ yrs old stuff counts as classics and are much cheaper to insure under classic policies. And bikes that old are still reliable. My VFR800 is 19 yrs old now and rock solid. My insurers wanted an additional £8 to add my blackbird to my fleet when i picked that up earlier this year, fully comp for 2x riders (me + dad), unlimited mileage.
It’s not 50/50 though. What if he stacks it into a load of pedestrians, or a few cars?

Cjmeek

Original Poster:

8 posts

146 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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I'll go have a wee think, I'll be learning/ completing my DAS on the CB650F so I might stick with that afterwards or look at a SV650.


Cheers!

Jazoli

9,704 posts

281 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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Willy Nilly said:
you will drop the CB/CBR
I do wish people would stop posting this bks, I know quite a few new riders and only one of them dropped their bike, its seems us older more experienced ones are much more adept at it.

Biker 1

8,609 posts

150 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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Jazoli said:
Willy Nilly said:
you will drop the CB/CBR
I do wish people would stop posting this bks, I know quite a few new riders and only one of them dropped their bike, its seems us older more experienced ones are much more adept at it.
+1!
You will either drop it or not, so doesn't really matter what bike you get. I would go further & say that if you get a new machine, you'll probably take more care of it anyway....

pessimal

339 posts

112 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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i made the mistake of getting some quotes on a tracer 700 when i have only been passed for 6 months and want to do 7000 miles a year!

lowest quote i have had was £1000, with my first quotes being £2500

and they wonder why new sales are declining!

IAN1967

340 posts

201 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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Can't comment on insurance costs as I only pay about a 100 quid fully comp for my CBR650F but they are good reliable bikes
Had mine mine for 3 and a half years and over 40K miles, and never missed a beat (touches wood)