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My son has been for an interview for a new job.
Its in software design etc. in a company that is turning over >£30m and achieved 100% growth last year and aims for another 100% this year.
My son doesn't have the exact experience required in the advert, but sent a good covering letter with his app and got the interview.
They were very impressed with him (He is 22 and just out of Uni with a 2.1 in business technology)and his attitude.
He was interviewed by the CEO and the MD and they said he could fit into 2 or 3 positiond=s within the company.
They have emailed him to say his offer letter is in the post @ 18k pa.
The question is, is my lad being a bit cheeky by saying thanks for the offer, but how about 20k?
Personally, I dont think he will lose anything by politely asking, and in fact may gain some respect.
Whaddya think PH ers?
Its in software design etc. in a company that is turning over >£30m and achieved 100% growth last year and aims for another 100% this year.
My son doesn't have the exact experience required in the advert, but sent a good covering letter with his app and got the interview.
They were very impressed with him (He is 22 and just out of Uni with a 2.1 in business technology)and his attitude.
He was interviewed by the CEO and the MD and they said he could fit into 2 or 3 positiond=s within the company.
They have emailed him to say his offer letter is in the post @ 18k pa.
The question is, is my lad being a bit cheeky by saying thanks for the offer, but how about 20k?
Personally, I dont think he will lose anything by politely asking, and in fact may gain some respect.
Whaddya think PH ers?
18k is pretty good IMO.
At 22, and with not much experience, I wouldn't want to push it.
It might even go up fairly quickly anyway.
I've just received an offer letter along similar lines, and whilst they were apparently very impressed with me and think I could quite easily move up at a fair rate, I'm pretty sure they could find somebody else if they wanted.
>> Edited by DanBoy on Friday 15th April 19:34
At 22, and with not much experience, I wouldn't want to push it.
It might even go up fairly quickly anyway.
I've just received an offer letter along similar lines, and whilst they were apparently very impressed with me and think I could quite easily move up at a fair rate, I'm pretty sure they could find somebody else if they wanted.
>> Edited by DanBoy on Friday 15th April 19:34
As a 27 year old with a MSc, 4 years coding in academia and an MCSD, I'd love a job at 18k!
That said, they ain't gonna say "20k? No, and you'll not get 18 now mate". They'll probably just say "wait for your first pay review". In which case he should just take it and work his way up.
That said, they ain't gonna say "20k? No, and you'll not get 18 now mate". They'll probably just say "wait for your first pay review". In which case he should just take it and work his way up.
As stated, the chances are that his pay will be reviewed fairly often for the first couple of years, and as he proves himself he will see increases.
I joined a major IT company as a software engineer straight out of Uni in '98 at 17.5k and have never had a pay increase of less than 10%, and I've had at least one a year.
The graduate starting salary for my company is now around 22k or more depending on qualifications/work experience, however, your lad is applying to a much smaller company. The flipside is if he plays his cards right, knuckles down and works his way up he could see a lot more reward than taking an initially higer paid job but just being seen as another code monkey.
I joined a major IT company as a software engineer straight out of Uni in '98 at 17.5k and have never had a pay increase of less than 10%, and I've had at least one a year.
The graduate starting salary for my company is now around 22k or more depending on qualifications/work experience, however, your lad is applying to a much smaller company. The flipside is if he plays his cards right, knuckles down and works his way up he could see a lot more reward than taking an initially higer paid job but just being seen as another code monkey.
What's he basing his need for £20K on - is he earning that now, or is just a target figure he has? Or does he have other similar offers in hand?
It's a tough call - they might think 'cheeky person' and tell him to go away. Is there anything about the job that he's not sure about - or would he be devastated if they ripped up his offer letter?
It's a tough call - they might think 'cheeky person' and tell him to go away. Is there anything about the job that he's not sure about - or would he be devastated if they ripped up his offer letter?
If he's been offered the job then technically the time for negotiation is over. Spirit is one thing but nobody likes pushy. Depends on his style and his relationship with the people really: it's his call. The best that can happen is they meet him halfway; the worst is 'Actually we've changed our minds...'.
If the company is that shit hot, might be best to quit while ahead?
If the company is that shit hot, might be best to quit while ahead?
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