Honda Integra Type R UKDM
Honda Integra Type R UKDM
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bencollins4

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1,239 posts

235 months

Saturday 16th December 2017
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I bought this last weekend and have finally had a decent drive following a pretty average week for weather.

It's a car I've admired for almost 20 years for it's no compromise attitude. Having said that, it's pretty useable and the seats are lovely!

First impressions are it's a very sweet thing to drive. It's had 1 owner from new, done 55k miles and seems to have been well looked after.

Looking forward to a more spirited drive St some point when there's a bit less ice and salt on the roads.

Anyone else got or had one of these?


Koolkat969

992 posts

128 months

Saturday 16th December 2017
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Hi, welcome to the club. I'm a fellow DC2 owner and that's a very nice purchase with really low mileage. It looks totally standard as well. I'll keep it that way if it's all standard. Is it going to be your daily? I'll advise undersealing it if it's not been done recently to protect it from the salt on the road.

Here's mine.

bencollins4

Original Poster:

1,239 posts

235 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Thanks! Yes, completely standard and it will stay that way, even down to a nearly new stock exhaust.

No I have an M135i for daily use, which is rapid but too refined and capable to be really fun. So the DC2 is the antidote!

Still waiting to try it on dry roads but get the impression it needs to be driven pretty hard to really appreciate it's talents.

Will look into undersealing as there doesn't seem much point parking if for the winter having just bought it.

buccal

545 posts

221 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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You beat me to it!

I spotted the ad and missed it by a few hours.

Looked like a cracker, enjoy!

Smokey32

359 posts

122 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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1 owner from new on a car like this? hmmmmm that's rather surprising

Koolkat969

992 posts

128 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Where was this advertised btw? Always like to check the market now and then but never came across this.

bencollins4

Original Poster:

1,239 posts

235 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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buccal said:
You beat me to it!

I spotted the ad and missed it by a few hours.

Looked like a cracker, enjoy!
Sorry, and thanks!

I was lucky - it must have appeared on Autotrader soon before I had a quick look and as it was not far from me I took it as fate! Not that the wife agrees.....

BrotherMouzone

3,169 posts

203 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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bencollins4 said:
Still waiting to try it on dry roads but get the impression it needs to be driven pretty hard to really appreciate it's talents.
I have a slightly pink and rusty one. Brilliant driver’s car, great track car ‘out of the box’ and utterly bombproof.

The car feels special even at 15mph; it really is the ‘GT3’ of late 90s / early 00s sport coupes.

Find an empty roundabout / track, floor it and feels the magic of LSD. What understeer?

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

273 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Brilliant cars. Not fast by today's standards, but hugely engaging, and the handling is just brilliant - especially with that LSD.

Harryst500

126 posts

153 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Awesome example

chrismc1977

858 posts

141 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Another nice UKDM- well done.

Have you done much ITR research prior to buying?

They have a few foibles but are an absolutely fabulous car....

Mine...standard- save for a few chance enhancements


bencollins4

Original Poster:

1,239 posts

235 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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chrismc1977 said:
Another nice UKDM- well done.

Have you done much ITR research prior to buying?

They have a few foibles but are an absolutely fabulous car....

Mine...standard- save for a few chance enhancements

Thanks Chris and Harry. I must admit to not having done a great deal of research prior to spotting it, but had looked at them on and off for years. I am aware of rear arch rust but mechanically I haven't read of too many horror stories. Don't give me any now though please!

I was actually in the market for an Elise S1 but missed out on several well-priced examples due to not being first in the queue. I would still like one at some point but struggle to see the value in them at £14k which appears to be the current starting point for decent examples.

I see the Integra as a 4 seat, fwd Elise and compared to an old Elise, I don't think it seems at all uncomfortable, noisy, or difficult to live with.

Really looking forward to getting to know it.

chrismc1977

858 posts

141 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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You’ve made a good choice.

Rear arch/sill rust is prevalent as you say.

Other things that will need doing (mileage notwithstanding) are the rear trailing arm bushes at minimum- though a full bush refresh would be preferable. It’s an age not mileage thing....

Also engine torque mounts will be soft/torn &/or weak by now. I’d replace all 3 lower mounts & also fit some Energy suspension inserts to stiffen it all up a bit. Makes a world of difference.

Engine-wise, a stock air filter setup is hard to beat unless you spend decent money on a Mugen box. Best left OEM imo

Valve clearances are also key and need doing regularly along with overly regular oil changes.

Tyres are also key. They need a really strong sidewall. The original Bridgestone RE010 are no longer available- I run Yokohama AD08R to very good effect. Go with budget alternatives at your peril


BrotherMouzone

3,169 posts

203 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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chrismc1977 said:
You’ve made a good choice.

Rear arch/sill rust is prevalent as you say.

Other things that will need doing (mileage notwithstanding) are the rear trailing arm bushes at minimum- though a full bush refresh would be preferable. It’s an age not mileage thing....

Also engine torque mounts will be soft/torn &/or weak by now. I’d replace all 3 lower mounts & also fit some Energy suspension inserts to stiffen it all up a bit. Makes a world of difference.

Engine-wise, a stock air filter setup is hard to beat unless you spend decent money on a Mugen box. Best left OEM imo

Valve clearances are also key and need doing regularly along with overly regular oil changes.

Tyres are also key. They need a really strong sidewall. The original Bridgestone RE010 are no longer available- I run Yokohama AD08R to very good effect. Go with budget alternatives at your peril
This, this, this and this.

RTA bushes, engine mounts, standard air box, good tyres, good brake pads and perhaps, if you can find them, JDM ITR manifold and cat. That’s all you need.

Such capable and fun car even in standard form.

bencollins4

Original Poster:

1,239 posts

235 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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chrismc1977 said:
You’ve made a good choice.

Rear arch/sill rust is prevalent as you say.

Other things that will need doing (mileage notwithstanding) are the rear trailing arm bushes at minimum- though a full bush refresh would be preferable. It’s an age not mileage thing....

Also engine torque mounts will be soft/torn &/or weak by now. I’d replace all 3 lower mounts & also fit some Energy suspension inserts to stiffen it all up a bit. Makes a world of difference.

Engine-wise, a stock air filter setup is hard to beat unless you spend decent money on a Mugen box. Best left OEM imo

Valve clearances are also key and need doing regularly along with overly regular oil changes.

Tyres are also key. They need a really strong sidewall. The original Bridgestone RE010 are no longer available- I run Yokohama AD08R to very good effect. Go with budget alternatives at your peril
Wow, you know your stuff Chris! Looks like you might know a few things about mechanics though given your profession....... Certainly get the feeling although original, suspension bits especially may be pretty tired but I don't have another DC2 to compare it to.

Thanks for the advice.

chrismc1977

858 posts

141 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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No worries at all!

This is my 2nd ITR & fully standard except for those bits above I’ve mentioned. They really are key to making them drive spot-on...

I have also sourced a JDM B pipe & will also get the cat/manifold to go with eventually (much better than the stock UKDM setup)


Koolkat969

992 posts

128 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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chrismc1977 said:
You’ve made a good choice.

Rear arch/sill rust is prevalent as you say.

Other things that will need doing (mileage notwithstanding) are the rear trailing arm bushes at minimum- though a full bush refresh would be preferable. It’s an age not mileage thing....

Also engine torque mounts will be soft/torn &/or weak by now. I’d replace all 3 lower mounts & also fit some Energy suspension inserts to stiffen it all up a bit. Makes a world of difference.

Engine-wise, a stock air filter setup is hard to beat unless you spend decent money on a Mugen box. Best left OEM imo

Valve clearances are also key and need doing regularly along with overly regular oil changes.

Tyres are also key. They need a really strong sidewall. The original Bridgestone RE010 are no longer available- I run Yokohama AD08R to very good effect. Go with budget alternatives at your peril
Very valid points made by Chris and if you haven't done so already, head over to the Integra forum, itr-dc2.com. There is a ton of information on there to guide you during your ownership.

Pretty much all you need to know is on there but one I will mention especially as you're using the car over the winter is the "exterior/interior" section on the site. There is a topic there called "poor design of rear arches". There is a design flaw highlighted in the topic and a simple fix which can save you from serious rust issues where the rear arches are concerned.

bencollins4

Original Poster:

1,239 posts

235 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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Promise I won't keep updating this too often but I took the car for only it's 2nd drive today, this time on some familiar B roads on my way to work.

Pushed on a bit through a couple of fast corners and was blown away by the feeling of a perfect balance and quote possibly the lsd? I've never had one in a fwd car before and presume it was that that seemed to want to resist under steer the harder I pushed?!

Considering it's on some very average Avons and possibly quite tired suspension I was very impressed! Steering feel isn't Elise like but is pretty impressive for a fed, and miles better than my M135i, as well as being much, much more fun. Found myself speeding up for corners time and time again.

Match that with a great gear change and phenomenal engine and I'm starting to get what all the fuss is about!

I was contemplating giving it a good wash and putting it away until the Spring but not so sure now.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

273 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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You'll know when the diff is working. Be brave, boot it hard into a tight corner, and you'll experience what feels like a touch of oversteer. Magic.

chrismc1977

858 posts

141 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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The steering feel actually improves with speed I find. Needs a bit of load to bring it to life.

Still find mine incredibly special & oh so capable- especially compared to a lot of modern bloated euro-hatches.

Imagine how good it will feel with a bit of a refresh...