Number plate on front windscreen?
Number plate on front windscreen?
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XVSolutions

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106 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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CoolHands

23,527 posts

225 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Yes you are if it’s sporty.

Leptons

5,493 posts

206 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Yes you’re allowed if you’re under 26 years old and have a VAG group car on financed Air and wheels, it’s law.

wjwren

4,484 posts

165 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Goes with using your front fogs. It looks cool.

KM666

1,757 posts

213 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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My old Octavia actually passed an MOT with the number plate in the windscreen, probably let it slide because it had TT wheels and a dump valve on it

Glasgowrob

3,347 posts

151 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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only if its a pressed plate In a sort of "German" style

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Yes makes it look well cooler.

Bert Cheese

245 posts

122 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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I'm told its ok because it makes the plate easier to read by McDonalds drive through staff, some of who are DVLA shadow agents...

imagineifyeswill

1,250 posts

196 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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I cant say for certain but as long as the plate can be read I think it still conforms to regulation. I once had a car presented for MOT with the rear number plate in the rear window and going through the manual the only thing I could fail it on was that the number plate lights didnt illuminate the plate, there was nothing to say the plate should be affixed in a certain position. I havent been an MOT tester for 10 years now so the rgulations may well have changed, many have.

imagineifyeswill

1,250 posts

196 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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I cant say for certain but as long as the plate can be read I think it still conforms to regulation. I once had a car presented for MOT with the rear number plate in the rear window and going through the manual the only thing I could fail it on was that the number plate lights didnt illuminate the plate, there was nothing to say the plate should be affixed in a certain position. I havent been an MOT tester for 10 years now so the regulations may well have changed, many have.

donkmeister

12,958 posts

130 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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imagineifyeswill said:
I cant say for certain but as long as the plate can be read I think it still conforms to regulation. I once had a car presented for MOT with the rear number plate in the rear window and going through the manual the only thing I could fail it on was that the number plate lights didnt illuminate the plate, there was nothing to say the plate should be affixed in a certain position. I havent been an MOT tester for 10 years now so the regulations may well have changed, many have.
I look forward to seeing Seats and Fiestas with numberplate lights retrofitted to the inside of the windscreen smile

kambites

71,525 posts

251 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Also the plate must be mounted:

"vertically or, where that is not reasonably practicable, in a position as close to the vertical as is reasonably practicable"

Which it's highly unlikely to be if it's on or inside the windscreen.

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Scene > law


loose cannon

6,057 posts

271 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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And when you crash and the number plate chops your face up idea

jamei303

3,084 posts

186 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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You can write it in lipstick on your windscreen too.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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XVSolutions said:
I have deleted my initial message from this topic.
Meanwhile, for amusement value, the original post read...
XVSolutions said:
I was wondering are you allowed having the front number plate on your windscreen? I've seen about 4 cars today with the numberplate inside the car and thought it looks quite nice (if you have a nice car).
Bless. But we'll go with a straight bat here...

The law said:
(3) This paragraph requires the plate to be fixed—

(a)vertically or, where that is not reasonably practicable, in a position as close to the vertical as is reasonably practicable,

(b)in such a position that in normal daylight the characters of the registration mark are easily distinguishable from every part of a relevant area having the diagonal length specified in paragraph (4).

(4) The diagonal length of the relevant area is—
(a)in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is at least 57 millimetres, 22 metres,
(b)in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is 50 millimetres, 21.5 metres,
(c)in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is 44 millimetres, 18 metres.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/561/regula...

You can do that with a plate shoved on the dashtop, you goferit.

(That's for post-2001 vehicles, which I think it's safe to assume the OP's asking about)

LosingGrip

8,875 posts

189 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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KM666 said:
My old Octavia actually passed an MOT with the number plate in the windscreen, probably let it slide because it had TT wheels and a dump valve on it
MOT states that it only needs to be readable...however you can still get a £100 fine from the police for it.

hondansx

4,700 posts

255 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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You will get pulled eventually. I've had no front plate, plate in windscreen, sticky plate and it's all eventually involved a snoop around! Regular police officers aren't fussed, traffic are like flies to sh*t.

caelite

4,282 posts

142 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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The guy appeared to be asking it as a genuine question, and you all need to bite his head off?

The fact of the matter is, by the letter of the law it is construction and use regs violation, which I believe carries a potential £100 fpn and/or rectification notice (a bit of paper you need to take to the MOT station after fixing the 'fault').

In reality though I'd say it is well and truly an attitude offence, provided it is sized right and fully legible I doubt you would get pulled for it, and if you do the likelyhood of them actually bothering to write you up for it is minimal unless you decide to be mouthy or you get one of the very few traffic/vosa guys who love paperwork.

Same applies for the private plate guys with the dodgy spacing, when I worked in an insurance lock up one of the site managers ran around with one, with traffic cops in and out the yard every day, only once did one of them say he needs to fine him for it, and that guy was a regular, stating it in jest.

However this is all in the real world, a place many PHers only seem to have visited briefly.

Edited by caelite on Monday 18th December 19:31

alorotom

12,787 posts

217 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Had a couple of cars with the front plate attached to the passenger sun visor so was visible from the front - no issues with police or MOTs

The main issue suffered however was car parks that read the number plate which it was terminally a nightmare for

I don’t get people’s annoyance by the movement of a plate to elsewhere - especially when it is displayed just not where others would like to see it
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