Robert Plant's Aston Martin DB5
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I've got to rise to this!!
Eight hundred grand!!!!! Utter and absolute madness.
Mine was Carribean Pearl with dark blue hide, identical to the Plant one in spec, and I sold it circa '74 for £2500 to a town planner!
It handled like a pig, blew the head gasket twice for absolutely no reason and consumed gallons of oil.
There is utterly no justification for these insane prices.
J
Eight hundred grand!!!!! Utter and absolute madness.
Mine was Carribean Pearl with dark blue hide, identical to the Plant one in spec, and I sold it circa '74 for £2500 to a town planner!
It handled like a pig, blew the head gasket twice for absolutely no reason and consumed gallons of oil.
There is utterly no justification for these insane prices.
J
jith said:
I've got to rise to this!!
Eight hundred grand!!!!! Utter and absolute madness.
Mine was Carribean Pearl with dark blue hide, identical to the Plant one in spec, and I sold it circa '74 for £2500 to a town planner!
It handled like a pig, blew the head gasket twice for absolutely no reason and consumed gallons of oil.
There is utterly no justification for these insane prices.
J
I bet you wish you still had it....Eight hundred grand!!!!! Utter and absolute madness.
Mine was Carribean Pearl with dark blue hide, identical to the Plant one in spec, and I sold it circa '74 for £2500 to a town planner!
It handled like a pig, blew the head gasket twice for absolutely no reason and consumed gallons of oil.
There is utterly no justification for these insane prices.
J
My mate bought a ( really nice one) in 1970 for £1200.00............ He swapped it for a Lotus Elan +2S
(A brand new 4.2 Jaguar XJ6 was around £2500)
jith said:
I've got to rise to this!!
Eight hundred grand!!!!! Utter and absolute madness.....
There is utterly no justification for these insane prices.
It's not just the Goldfinger link either.Eight hundred grand!!!!! Utter and absolute madness.....
There is utterly no justification for these insane prices.
The silver ex-Paul McCartney one which DJ Chris Evans owned (and subsequently plated as "64 MAC") recently went at auction for £1.3million-plus. In the same auction was another (LHD) DB5 which went for £830,000, so maybe £800k isn't so unrealistic after all.
I remember following a DB5 through the chaotic traffic in Brent Street, Hendon last year and thinking that the driver was brave or mad for risking half-a-million quid's worth of classic car in the middle of some of London's most unthinking motorists. Its proportions are remarkably small compared to everyday modern cars, too.
You know the market has entered a "bubble" when the "intrinsic" value of cars is overridden by their rarity or fame - basically "extrinsic" values.
So many classics are trading at non-sustainable prices when they weren't even very good cars when they were new & they sure as hell haven't improved with age. This rule is equally applicable to "Young Timers" from the '80's & '90's.
Few people stop to ask themselves:
(1) How did this car compare to its contemporaries when it was new?;
(2) How good is the engineering in it?;
(3) In its day was it a high-end model from a large well-regarded manufacturer built to their highest standards or was it a parts-bin mash-up marketed as an "Evo" version based on an older technology low-end platform?
(4) What makes this model notable, significant or desirable?;
(5) Is it good at what it was designed to do?;
(7) Is it a fun drive?;
(8) How durable and maintenance friendly is this car? (That will be clue to the quality of it underlying engineering).
Tim
So many classics are trading at non-sustainable prices when they weren't even very good cars when they were new & they sure as hell haven't improved with age. This rule is equally applicable to "Young Timers" from the '80's & '90's.
Few people stop to ask themselves:
(1) How did this car compare to its contemporaries when it was new?;
(2) How good is the engineering in it?;
(3) In its day was it a high-end model from a large well-regarded manufacturer built to their highest standards or was it a parts-bin mash-up marketed as an "Evo" version based on an older technology low-end platform?
(4) What makes this model notable, significant or desirable?;
(5) Is it good at what it was designed to do?;
(7) Is it a fun drive?;
(8) How durable and maintenance friendly is this car? (That will be clue to the quality of it underlying engineering).
Tim
(6) Is it a comfortable place to sit? Yes if a bit hot in summer
(9) Will a police officer put down his speed gun to applaud when you drive by? Yes
And possibly
(10) If you had an otherwise balanced investment portfolio not subject to CGT, gold, gems, wine, watches etc, and had spare cash, would you buy one or two? Yes, and many do
(9) Will a police officer put down his speed gun to applaud when you drive by? Yes
And possibly
(10) If you had an otherwise balanced investment portfolio not subject to CGT, gold, gems, wine, watches etc, and had spare cash, would you buy one or two? Yes, and many do
Penguinracer said:
....So many classics are trading at non-sustainable prices when they weren't even very good cars when they were new & they sure as hell haven't improved with age. This rule is equally applicable to "Young Timers" from the '80's & '90's....
Aha, so it could be said that the only true classic cars are the modern everyday ones currently in production?Penguinracer said:
You know the market has entered a "bubble" when the "intrinsic" value of cars is overridden by their rarity or fame - basically "extrinsic" values.
So many classics are trading at non-sustainable prices when they weren't even very good cars when they were new & they sure as hell haven't improved with age. This rule is equally applicable to "Young Timers" from the '80's & '90's.
Few people stop to ask themselves:
(1) How did this car compare to its contemporaries when it was new?;
(2) How good is the engineering in it?;
(3) In its day was it a high-end model from a large well-regarded manufacturer built to their highest standards or was it a parts-bin mash-up marketed as an "Evo" version based on an older technology low-end platform?
(4) What makes this model notable, significant or desirable?;
(5) Is it good at what it was designed to do?;
(7) Is it a fun drive?;
(8) How durable and maintenance friendly is this car? (That will be clue to the quality of it underlying engineering).
Tim
Price, value or cost? Most classic cars have little intrinsic value, but they can certainly have a market value. The DB5 is Bond's car, he does occasionally drive other, lesser, vehicles.So many classics are trading at non-sustainable prices when they weren't even very good cars when they were new & they sure as hell haven't improved with age. This rule is equally applicable to "Young Timers" from the '80's & '90's.
Few people stop to ask themselves:
(1) How did this car compare to its contemporaries when it was new?;
(2) How good is the engineering in it?;
(3) In its day was it a high-end model from a large well-regarded manufacturer built to their highest standards or was it a parts-bin mash-up marketed as an "Evo" version based on an older technology low-end platform?
(4) What makes this model notable, significant or desirable?;
(5) Is it good at what it was designed to do?;
(7) Is it a fun drive?;
(8) How durable and maintenance friendly is this car? (That will be clue to the quality of it underlying engineering).
Tim
Penguinracer said:
You know the market has entered a "bubble" when the "intrinsic" value of cars is overridden by their rarity or fame - basically "extrinsic" values.
So many classics are trading at non-sustainable prices when they weren't even very good cars when they were new & they sure as hell haven't improved with age. This rule is equally applicable to "Young Timers" from the '80's & '90's.
Few people stop to ask themselves:
(1) How did this car compare to its contemporaries when it was new?;
(2) How good is the engineering in it?;
(3) In its day was it a high-end model from a large well-regarded manufacturer built to their highest standards or was it a parts-bin mash-up marketed as an "Evo" version based on an older technology low-end platform?
(4) What makes this model notable, significant or desirable?;
(5) Is it good at what it was designed to do?;
(7) Is it a fun drive?;
(8) How durable and maintenance friendly is this car? (That will be clue to the quality of it underlying engineering).
Tim
I think that you missed out "How well does it pull!"So many classics are trading at non-sustainable prices when they weren't even very good cars when they were new & they sure as hell haven't improved with age. This rule is equally applicable to "Young Timers" from the '80's & '90's.
Few people stop to ask themselves:
(1) How did this car compare to its contemporaries when it was new?;
(2) How good is the engineering in it?;
(3) In its day was it a high-end model from a large well-regarded manufacturer built to their highest standards or was it a parts-bin mash-up marketed as an "Evo" version based on an older technology low-end platform?
(4) What makes this model notable, significant or desirable?;
(5) Is it good at what it was designed to do?;
(7) Is it a fun drive?;
(8) How durable and maintenance friendly is this car? (That will be clue to the quality of it underlying engineering).
Tim
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=aston+martin+db5...
Seems to me that many of 'these' and similar cars are bought by 'chancers'. With the seemingly never ending rise in purported values of 'exotica' justifying them spending the equivalent cost of several perfectly good 'ordinary' classic cars to bring the car up to the very best pristine mechanical and interior standards. 'Speculators' seeing this ever increasing rise in prices seemingly pay these inflated prices being fully convinced that this price rise will for ever continue and a better investment than traditional choices. As nice as a AM may be there will be plenty of people who would have avoided these like a plaque some years ago when they were 'almost' affordable, fully knowing the outlandish costs for maintaining and restoring these vehicles. Taking nothing away from these exquisite cars - back then (and now) for the 'thinking' and logical buyer they were not exactly the most reliable, best performing or handling cars available were they?
Edited by roscobbc on Monday 25th December 23:02
roscobbc said:
......As nice as a AM may be there will be plenty of people who would have avoided these like a plaque some years ago when they were 'almost' affordable, fully knowing the outlandish costs for maintaining and restoring these vehicles. Taking nothing away from these exquisite cars - back then (and now) for the 'thinking' and logical buyer they were not exactly the most reliable, best performing or handling cars available were they? ...
...which is probably why this latter-day leviathan was createdBebee said:
Were similar me and Planty, both born in Stourbridge, both singers/musicians, both Wolves fans, both have Aston.....no wait.....that's where it ends.
That is a stunner, same colour as my van! That will do.
Same here but live in Wolves (oh and I’m not a musician!)That is a stunner, same colour as my van! That will do.
I always remember a story someone told me at work. A colleagues son had a sleepover at Rob Plant’s house and breakfast was a coke and a beef burger. Proper rock ‘n roll!
lowdrag said:
Talking of values, one does wonder if prices would be different if, for example, JB had driven an E-type as opposed to a DB5.
Having "James Bond" driving one of your cars can't do any harm.£800,000 for a DB5 is ridiculous.
You could have six new Astons or Ferraris for that kind of money.
(Love your E type btw)
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