What is the engine to look for in a used 991 GT3?

[Flugplatz]

I had a 2014 991 GT3 that came to me with delivery mileage and on engine number 2.
That engine failed and i got a 3rd that was revised.
I believe there was a fourth released after that?

So when shopping for a 991 GT3 what is the engine code needed for the revised 4th engine?

I assume lots of the low mileage cars for sale that are now out of warranty are still on engine 2 and are to be avoided obviously.

[PantsFire]

I think G is the replacement engine, if you've got that you should be OK, I'd personally buy through an OPC and get clarification regarding the engine and the warranty.

[Flat0ut]

Only a small percentage of them have had engine replacements to the latest units (I think letter G) so chances of you finding one in the spec you want are very small.

Personally I would buy on the spec you want first and make sure the car comes with a Porsche approved warranty which covers you in case you need it and crack on. The Porsche warranty can be extended for up to 15 years so its not something that i would be worried about personally..

[majordad]

All 991 GT3 cars have had the engine warranty automatically extended for ten years. I know this because when a friend took his 2014 GT3 in for a service at an OPC the computer highlighted this.
Note, this engine warranty only covers the engine and is not in any way related to the Extended Porsche Car Warranty that covers the whole car.

[Flugplatz]

majordad said:

All 991 GT3 cars have had the engine warranty automatically extended for ten years. I know this because when a friend took his 2014 GT3 in for a service at an OPC the computer highlighted this.
Note, this engine warranty only covers the engine and is not in any way related to the Extended Porsche Car Warranty that covers the whole car.

Thanks MD. Just found this over on Renns...

Dear Mr. Carr

We are writing with pleasure to inform you of an enhancement to your New Vehicle Limited Warranty on your 2015 Porsche 911 GT3 model having Vehicle Identification Number (XXX). In addition to the bumper-to-bumper coverage, which you have for four years from your vehicle's original in-service date, or 50,000 miles, whichever comes first, we are extending the coverage on your vehicle's engine.

Effective at once, the limited warranty on all your vehicle's internal engine components continues for ten years from your vehicle's original in-service date, up to 120,000 miles, whichever occurs first.

All other terms and conditions of your New Vehicle Limited Warranty remain unchanged and still apply as they appear in the Porsche Warranty Booklet that came with your GT3 model. You do not need to do anything in order to place this extension into effect; we already have applied it to your vehicle. This extended engine coverage, like all other terms and conditions of the Porsche New Vehicle Limited Warranty, are transferable to subsequent owners. Please keep this letter in your Porsche Warranty Booklet and ensure that it remains with your Porsche GT3 should you sell it.

You selected a flagship Porsche model and we are committed to offering you a delightful and worry-free ownership experience. All of us at Porsche appreciate your business and your loyalty.

Sincerely yours,

Glenn Garde
Vice President, Customer Relations

[nw942]

short-shift provides a good overview here: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

HTH

[throt]

Thats good news. So the 10yr warranty applies to the UK, great stuff.

Yes, the latest engine in the Gen1 is the G engine. Mines the F engine, but no probs at the moment. Fingers crossed.

[v8ksn]

Flugplatz said:

I had a 2014 991 GT3 that came to me with delivery mileage and on engine number 2.
That engine failed and i got a 3rd that was revised.
I believe there was a fourth released after that?

So when shopping for a 991 GT3 what is the engine code needed for the revised 4th engine?

I assume lots of the low mileage cars for sale that are now out of warranty are still on engine 2 and are to be avoided obviously.

I would ONLY buy a 991.1 GT3 through an OPC or privately with a transferrable warranty confirmed in writing by an OPC.

Anything else is Russian Roulette

[spyderlight]

v8ksn said:

I would ONLY buy a 991.1 GT3 through an OPC or privately with a transferrable warranty confirmed in writing by an OPC.

Anything else is Russian Roulette

Russian Roulette what?

The 10 warranty is on all 991/1 GT3's global and is transferrable and does not have to be confirmed by an OPC or any dealer so there is no need for scare mongering.

[Callughan]

So you can extend warranty until the 15th birthday but does that mean after this the cars will suffer the same fate as the 996 with I/RMS i.e. no value?

[GT4P]

I don't think it will be as bad as m96/7 ! From what I have read if a G series engine is fitted then no worries but if the earlier E1 series engine is fitted that replaced the E0 engine with the dodgy Conrod bolts then surely if it outlasts warranty then it's only a top end rebuild with G series parts? Perhaps before then someone like Hartech will have a cost effective solution.

[spyderlight]

Callughan said:

So you can extend warranty until the 15th birthday but does that mean after this the cars will suffer the same fate as the 996 with I/RMS i.e. no value?

No Value 10k-50k?
996's can vary in price between 10k & 50k depending on the model hardly anywhere near no value plus RMS is no big deal. I think a lot of rubbish is written on these threads due to lack of knowledge.

[Younez]

Vanilla 996 models whilst nice at the time are an acquired taste looks wise, but also did nothing extraordinary on top of their chocolate engines which made them relatively worthless when they were out of the porsche warranty. GT3 won't have this problem as they are great to drive, but over the time .2 rsr engined should be the one.

Edited by Younez on Friday 22 December 20:51

[GT4P]

spyderlight said:

No Value 10k-50k?
996's can vary in price between 10k & 50k depending on the model hardly anywhere near no value plus RMS is no big deal. I think a lot of rubbish is written on these threads due to lack of knowledge.

I think you will find 996(non GT/turbo) cars are about £8-£20k.
IMS is a big deal when it lets go wrecks the engine had it happen on 2003 986S with13k miles it ain't pretty! The borescore issue can be monitored so for me m97 engine much better bet with upgraded IMS although I would not buy or recommend either!
The 991.1 gt3 engine will not be as big a problem at least Porsche have done the right thing this time with extended engine warranty! And hopefully a long lasting solution was found with the later engines

Edited by GT4P on Friday 22 December 20:55

[v8ksn]

spyderlight said:

Russian Roulette what?

The 10 warranty is on all 991/1 GT3's global and is transferrable and does not have to be confirmed by an OPC or any dealer so there is no need for scare mongering.

Thats great news then! I apologise and stand corrected.

I thought the transfer of the engine warranty followed the same process as the normal warranty. With the normal warranty the buyer can have the warranty transferred directly from the seller if its still valid, otherwise they have to wait 3 months and then apply for one after the 111 point check.

[spyderlight]

GT4P said:

I think you will find 996(non GT/turbo) cars are about £8-£20k.
IMS is a big deal when it lets go wrecks the engine had it happen on 2003 986S with13k miles it ain't pretty! The borescore issue can be monitored so for me m97 engine much better bet with upgraded IMS although I would not buy or recommend either!
The 991.1 gt3 engine will not be as big a problem at least Porsche have done the right thing this time with extended engine warranty! And hopefully a long lasting solution was found with the later engines

Edited by GT4P on Friday 22 December 20:55

All 996's for sale right now as we speak on Pistonheads cheapest from £9500 to £49900 non turbo/ GT hence my comment 10k-to 50k check for yourself.
RMS should be monitored and checked regular if ignored it can be costly but not a major cost to rectify if picked up on time. Sadly there is no perfect car all cars what ever the brand do have mechanical issues.

[Younez]

Advertised prices mean nothing, not sure what point you are trying to make, but feel free to insult ph threads with your 26 posts.

[GT4P]

£10 shy of £50k for a non turbo/GT 996 you would need your head testing ! As for RMS it is a seal that causes a slight oil leak and bit of a non issue, are you confusing it with IMS ?

[spyderlight]

Younez said:

Advertised prices mean nothing, not sure what point you are trying to make, but feel free to insult ph threads with your 26 posts.

Oh dear!

Are we upset that l don't qualify because l have only posted 26 mainly positive posts against your 999.

The thread was discussing prices of 996's which happens to mean everything.
The only person doing the insulting is yourself so run along and hassle someone else if your board as l was not replying to you in the first place GOODBYE.

[spyderlight]

GT4P said:

£10 shy of £50k for a non turbo/GT 996 you would need your head testing ! As for RMS it is a seal that causes a slight oil leak and bit of a non issue, are you confusing it with IMS ?

I don't make the prices up thats the reality of the market prices of today if your looking to buy. Any one can see this for themselves so theres no need for the insult. RMS is not uncommon and will show it's face on most models at some stage in there life and as l said can be monitored.