Do you trust your police force?
Do you trust your police force?

Poll: Do you trust your police force?

Total Members Polled: 423

Yes totally. Never had any problems.: 27%
Yes mostly. Know of problems/ had problems.: 21%
Sort of. Some are good/ some not so good.: 22%
Not really. Little or no trust.: 22%
Not at all.They are rotten to the core.: 8%
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Discussion

ArmaghMan

Original Poster:

2,796 posts

210 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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See a lot of people on both criticising and defending the police. So wondering what the overall view is.
I guess each constabulary are different, but some have truly woeful reputations; thinking particularly of the Met. and our force over here, the PSNI.

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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Public trust hasn't really changed since the mid-1980s when the oldest measurement of trust in occupations began. That shows the fallacy of perception as the police are much more trustworthy now than they were in the 1980s.

Wider measurements and indications don't suggest the Met's reputation is much different to any other force. What makes you think their reputation is worthy of mentioning above anyone else's?

The PSNI do a very hard job dealing with serious public order and Irish terrorism which is more risky them them than threats to mainland officers.

Antony Moxey

10,717 posts

249 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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Depends what for. For most normal policing then pretty much without question. Anything to do with football and the phrase with p*ss up and brewery springs to mind.

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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Football policing is one of the best examples of UK policing. Especially when you consider how far it has come since the 1970s and 1980s.

It's internationally recognised as being amongst the best which is why so many police from around the world come to visit, observe and learn.


Bigends

6,178 posts

158 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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La Liga said:
Football policing is one of the best examples of UK policing. Especially when you consider how far it has come since the 1970s and 1980s.

It's internationally recognised as being amongst the best which is why so many police from around the world come to visit, observe and learn.
Hmmm, I policed league footy between 1977 and 2005 - 14 yrs as a 'spotter' (and ground CCTV operator) involved in Policing matches all over the UK. Majority of matches are Police free now. Chatting to current football liaison officers in my force that I used to work with and they tell me that our force our lucky to get away with as little disorder as they do because of the minimal Police presence. They dont even have a dedicated Football liason officer - just an events co-ordinator whos involved in a number of fields of work - not solely football work

Edited by Bigends on Sunday 24th December 22:32

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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That's down to having no money. By that measure a fair few areas could be attacked. Even so, there's very little disorder at football games these days.

Football is interesting as it shows how effective legalisation can be on occasions. Banning orders were and are very effective, for example.







Yipper

5,964 posts

120 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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Plod are very good and have improved a lot in recent years.

Know someone who dated a police sergeant in a small rural town in the 1980s. Before the Web and smartphones. They ran it like a Wild West sheriff and did pretty much whatever they wanted. Beating up suspects for fun, planting evidence, fitting up suspects to get their conviction rate higher, taking home contraband, you name it.

chunder27

2,309 posts

238 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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I trust them in person

But I think their hands are tied largely by a lack of budget and targets, meaning they often make stupid decisions as a result.


Second Best

6,534 posts

211 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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I trust the men and women who face the public and deal with unquestionably awful situations as part of their day-to-day. I don't trust some of the behind-the-scenes types who see "targets" rather than "a job well done".

SkrrSkrr

261 posts

119 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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Nope

Antony Moxey

10,717 posts

249 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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La Liga said:
Football policing is one of the best examples of UK policing. Especially when you consider how far it has come since the 1970s and 1980s.

It's internationally recognised as being amongst the best which is why so many police from around the world come to visit, observe and learn.
Not with D&C. Utterly, utterly useless every time there’s a ‘big’ game in the south west, they basically see football as a cash cow to generate free overtime every time the coffers need topping up. Football intelligence is something of a contradiction in terms down here.

dacouch

1,172 posts

159 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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Yipper said:
Plod are very good and have improved a lot in recent years.

Know someone who dated a police sergeant in a small rural town in the 1980s. Before the Web and smartphones. They ran it like a Wild West sheriff and did pretty much whatever they wanted. Beating up suspects for fun, planting evidence, fitting up suspects to get their conviction rate higher, taking home contraband, you name it.
I used to drink with a sergeant ten years ago and his TSG team in a home counties market town ran their team the same way then

rambo19

2,959 posts

167 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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I do trust them.
I'm just frustrated with them as they seem to have become lazy when it come to so called low level crime.

Mandalore

5,457 posts

143 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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Not many people come into contact with the police unless they commit a crime, or are the victim of one.

The criminals dislike them and feel victimised at being caught.(ironic)

But the criminals victims become disheartened with them, because the courts seem to let the criminals go free and the police never have enough people.

Phil Dicky

7,194 posts

293 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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dacouch said:
Yipper said:
Plod are very good and have improved a lot in recent years.

Know someone who dated a police sergeant in a small rural town in the 1980s. Before the Web and smartphones. They ran it like a Wild West sheriff and did pretty much whatever they wanted. Beating up suspects for fun, planting evidence, fitting up suspects to get their conviction rate higher, taking home contraband, you name it.
I used to drink with a sergeant ten years ago and his TSG team in a home counties market town ran their team the same way then
Very common before PACE was introduced in 1984.

Kuji

785 posts

152 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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I trust them more than Parcel Force

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

228 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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Kuji said:
I trust them more than Parcel Force
rofl

you're a very trusting person

33q

1,628 posts

153 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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We had unwelcome visitors at 2.00am 2 weeks ago. Police were there before the phone call ended ... under 5 minutes

They didn't catch them but searched for over an hour.

To be fair couldn't have asked for more

HustleRussell

26,551 posts

190 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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They’re under-resourced

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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Like all other large organisations, the majority of police are surely ok and intend to do the job properly

There are undoubtedly some wrong uns in there

And some of the things the police is expected to do should be dealt with by other organisations

This isn’t a nice aspect of the job (either taking the tent, or giving the order to someone to take the tent)

https://twitter.com/dawnhfoster/status/94510252714...

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 25th December 11:16