Staff member not wanting to get UK drivers licence
Staff member not wanting to get UK drivers licence
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snobetter

Original Poster:

1,366 posts

176 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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Edited / deleted because I don't want to risk my job over this, in case they're searching online and find this...


Edited by snobetter on Thursday 28th December 12:21


Edited by snobetter on Thursday 28th December 12:32

Gavia

7,627 posts

121 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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It’s unlikely to be a discrimination issue, it’s certainly not a protected right. There is a good chance that they believe using a foreign licence gives them immunity from points and therefore a ban, although the ghost licences set up by DVLA may negate that (I’m not an expert).

There is also the extreme chance that they’ve already been banned in the U.K. and have reverted to their home country licence to circumvent this. However, that’s probably unlikely as they’d just accept the taxi offer so as not to raise suspicions and risk being found out.

It seems like someone being awkward for the sake of it. Is their licence an EU one? If not there are time limits on how long they can drive on their foreign licence for, I think a year is the limit, then it either has to be exchanged, or even a test be taken.

Cyberprog

2,325 posts

213 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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Is the license an EU license?

hyphen

26,262 posts

120 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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Ask the Insurance company to clarify their position..

If they state that EU license is not covered then not your problem anymore, your staff member can take it up with the insurance company.

anothernameitist

1,500 posts

165 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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I'd look at this from a duty of care.

You have a duty of care to ensure drivers are "clean" in terms of points and also eyesight tests.

Call it positive discrimination!

Call them a cock

snobetter

Original Poster:

1,366 posts

176 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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It is an EU licence

Edited by snobetter on Thursday 28th December 12:33

BertBert

21,275 posts

241 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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What is your duty of care regarding points and to whom?

anothernameitist said:
I'd look at this from a duty of care.

You have a duty of care to ensure drivers are "clean" in terms of points and also eyesight tests.

Call it positive discrimination!

Call them a cock

paintman

7,860 posts

220 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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Handy UK gov link for you:
https://www.gov.uk/driving-nongb-licence

If you are the person responsible for company vehicle insurance then speak to your insurers to clarify their position.

anothernameitist

1,500 posts

165 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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BertBert said:
To the general public, these things can go as far as any one wants to...

Look at corporate manslaughter and you could have a driver who is clearly a menice on the road, you as the employer, either supplying a vehicle of paying an allowance and doing nothing about the menice ( training) could be seen to be washing their hands of the situation if an accident happens on your watch

lowdrag

13,185 posts

243 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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The other way round, but when I went to the cop shop to change my english for a french licence they told me that under european law it wasn't necessary and showed me the relative law. I wanted one though for the reason that a french licence is for life with no medical requirements, so I insisted. It may be the same for him. But surely though, what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander and they can't force him to have a UK licence. He could though, as I know some people have done here, ask for a duplicate of his EU licence and then surrender the duplicate for a UK licence!

majordad

3,631 posts

227 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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Lowdrag, is that still true for France, license for life and no medical ? I'm amazed !

snobetter

Original Poster:

1,366 posts

176 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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Its not a question of legality to drive here, it's about corporate liability, not being able to check the licence (might have been banned in country of origin but managed to retain physical licence).

Then also, you can check with DVLA for any infringements they've been caught for whilst here, but instead of a 1 minute job inputting a code it requires both parties to be present and calling a third party premium phone line. Then treating every member of staff from now on the same, every year.

Gavia

7,627 posts

121 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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snobetter said:
Edited / deleted because I don't want to risk my job over this, in case they're searching online and find this...


Edited by snobetter on Thursday 28th December 12:21


Edited by snobetter on Thursday 28th December 12:32
Are you serious? That’s pathetic. Are you called Mr S N O’Better in real life? Do you really think that your employer may casually come across this and with absolutely zero evidence of any connection to you, dismiss you for it?

Why bother asking a question if you’re that paranoid?

Edited by Gavia on Thursday 28th December 17:47

a.lex

165 posts

107 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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How was the employer going to check the licence? With the employee's consent and check code, or is there some other way?

Gavia

7,627 posts

121 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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a.lex said:
How was the employer going to check the licence? With the employee's consent and check code, or is there some other way?
No point asking the OP, he’s off the grid and buried under six feet of reinforced tin foil just in case his employer is watching him from the invisible drone.

mannyo

83 posts

268 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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From the link posted earlier in this thread, there is no requirement for a UK resident who holds an EU issued license to change it for a UK one.

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You can drive in Great Britain on your full, valid driving licence
If you were younger than 67 when you became a resident, you can drive on your EU licence until you’re 70.

If you were 67 or older when you became a resident, you can drive on your EU licence for 3 years after that point.
Endquote

The only difference is if the holder of the EU license exchanged a non EU license to drive in the EU, in that case.

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You can drive in Great Britain for only 12 months if you got your EU licence by exchanging your non-EU licence.
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vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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I don't think licencing & legality to drive 'a' vehicle in the UK is a problem that is concerning the OP.

It's satisfying company policy in respect of licence checks etc for people who are to drive company vehicles.
Most companies will have a policy of periodic licence checks for employees who are driving a vehicle as part of their work.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

260 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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Gavia said:
snobetter said:
Edited / deleted because I don't want to risk my job over this, in case they're searching online and find this...


Edited by snobetter on Thursday 28th December 12:21


Edited by snobetter on Thursday 28th December 12:32
Are you serious? That’s pathetic. Are you called Mr S N O’Better in real life? Do you really think that your employer may casually come across this and with absolutely zero evidence of any connection to you, dismiss you for it?

Why bother asking a question if you’re that paranoid?

Edited by Gavia on Thursday 28th December 17:47
You really do have a way with words.

BertBert

21,275 posts

241 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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utter tosh. What has 'points' got to do with that?
anothernameitist said:
BertBert said:
To the general public, these things can go as far as any one wants to...

snobetter

Original Poster:

1,366 posts

176 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Gavia said:
snobetter said:
Edited / deleted because I don't want to risk my job over this, in case they're searching online and find this...


Edited by snobetter on Thursday 28th December 12:21


Edited by snobetter on Thursday 28th December 12:32
Are you serious? That’s pathetic. Are you called Mr S N O’Better in real life? Do you really think that your employer may casually come across this and with absolutely zero evidence of any connection to you, dismiss you for it?

Why bother asking a question if you’re that paranoid?

Edited by Gavia on Thursday 28th December 17:47
Person in question searches google to help their case, this comes up, they recognize / believe it's about them, I'm the only other one envolved, I have an awkward conversation with HR. Unlikely perhaps, but possible, and not really worth the aggravation to me. I changed my mind after posting the question, calm down dear it won't affect your life.