No Mot needed, registering a period import
No Mot needed, registering a period import
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jason61c

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5,978 posts

203 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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Howdy all.

My understanding is that come may, I can register my imported classic car and get a reg number, before it hits the road? 1970 car, i've got all the nova stuff, so in theory it'll be a case of sending the paperwork in and i'll get a uk reg number etc?

CAPP0

20,836 posts

232 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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I'm not 100% but I think you may still need to get that "first" MOT done before you can then be exempt, I guess to make sure that it, at least at that point, complies with UK regs.

I registered a 1976 bike this year, imported from Canada via the USA, for which I got a dating certificate but still had to MOT, but I'm not yet sure whether I need to MOT it in 2018 or not. It was MOTd on the frame number. Interestingly, the MOT checker shows it as Green but says "No details held by DVLA" as below:


jason61c

Original Poster:

5,978 posts

203 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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CAPP0 said:
I'm not 100% but I think you may still need to get that "first" MOT done before you can then be exempt, I guess to make sure that it, at least at that point, complies with UK regs.

I registered a 1976 bike this year, imported from Canada via the USA, for which I got a dating certificate but still had to MOT, but I'm not yet sure whether I need to MOT it in 2018 or not. It was MOTd on the frame number. Interestingly, the MOT checker shows it as Green but says "No details held by DVLA" as below:

They've not actually said that's what you need to do? Its been well planned hasn't it smile

Mart-1

441 posts

229 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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You’ll need an initial MOT and subsequent annual MOT’s just like any other vehicle

Your car will be exempt from road tax

I still have to renew the tax on my 1972 car annually for £0.00

You might also need headlamps / lenses updated for use in the UK before it goes for the MOT

Framptons Plates make nice period U.K. number plates by the way

What are you importing?

civicduty

1,857 posts

232 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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Or come May next year you won’t need an MOT.

See link, it’s on a Motorbike site but will be the same for cars.

https://www.carolenash.com/insidebikes/news/good-n...

So looks like if you import it before May 2018 you will need an MOT but won’t ever need one again.

That’s as long as you get an agreed age from the DVLA I guess.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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It's exactly the same as has been in place for the last five years for pre-60 stuff. From May next year, anything 40yo+ that's not been modified in the last 30yrs won't need an MOT to register - so long as you prove the manufacture date makes it exempt, which you need to do for an age-related plate anyway.

Just NOVA within 14 days of arrival, V55/5, insurance, proof of age - and possibly an inspection.

jason61c

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203 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Mart-1 said:
You’ll need an initial MOT and subsequent annual MOT’s just like any other vehicle

Your car will be exempt from road tax

I still have to renew the tax on my 1972 car annually for £0.00

You might also need headlamps / lenses updated for use in the UK before it goes for the MOT

Framptons Plates make nice period U.K. number plates by the way

What are you importing?
Nope, no mot's

jason61c

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Friday 29th December 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
It's exactly the same as has been in place for the last five years for pre-60 stuff. From May next year, anything 40yo+ that's not been modified in the last 30yrs won't need an MOT to register - so long as you prove the manufacture date makes it exempt, which you need to do for an age-related plate anyway.

Just NOVA within 14 days of arrival, V55/5, insurance, proof of age - and possibly an inspection.
Yes, thats what I was thinking. Not that clear is it. its a 1970 240z.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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jason61c said:
Not that clear is it.
V55/5 is designed to be one-size-fits-all, so 90% of it is ignored anyway.

Basically - if it needs an MOT, you need an MOT to register it. If it doesn't need an MOT... you don't.

cjb44

739 posts

147 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
V55/5 is designed to be one-size-fits-all, so 90% of it is ignored anyway.

Basically - if it needs an MOT, you need an MOT to register it. If it doesn't need an MOT... you don't.
OK, it certainly is not entirely clear from the DVLA. One of my cars is a September 1978 registered MGB which has MOT and TAX through to November 2018. My question is will this become MOT and TAX free in November 2018 when both would be due or will I have to wait until 2019? Also in either scenario will I have to get another MOT when I declare it as a historic vehicle to gain these exemptions?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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cjb44 said:
One of my cars is a September 1978 registered MGB which has MOT and TAX through to November 2018. My question is will this become MOT and TAX free in November 2018 when both would be due or will I have to wait until 2019?
1st April 2019 - assuming it was built some time in 1978, rather than sitting unregistered from 1977. If you can show it was 1977 built (Heritage certificate), then tax on 1st April 2018, MOT exemption from 20th May 2018.

cjb44 said:
Also in either scenario will I have to get another MOT when I declare it as a historic vehicle to gain these exemptions?
No. Come 1st April 2019, you'll be able to change it to "VHI" (free VED, no MOT needed) - or "Historic" (free VED, MOT needed) if it's been substantially modified in the preceding 30yrs.

uk66fastback

18,332 posts

300 months

Saturday 30th December 2017
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All good info on the new regs, but tell us more about the 240z. I’ve got a ‘72 LHD one, unregistered in the UK still after over two years here ... so By the time I ge5 round to registering it, I won’t need an MoT either I would think.

Pics would be good too!

cjb44

739 posts

147 months

Saturday 30th December 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
No. Come 1st April 2019, you'll be able to change it to "VHI" (free VED, no MOT needed) - or "Historic" (free VED, MOT needed) if it's been substantially modified in the preceding 30yrs.
OK, thank you for that. I do not have a heritage certificate with the car so must investigate that avenue; it has not been substantially modified although it has had the chrome bumper mod etc. when it was first restored in 1988.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Saturday 30th December 2017
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cjb44 said:
it has not been substantially modified although it has had the chrome bumper mod etc. when it was first restored in 1988.
So 30yrs ago anyway, not that a simple bumper swap and a little wing-mod is anywhere near enough to trigger the threshold.

KieronFDUK

8 posts

206 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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Interesting. I also have an old 1968 Nissan that I'd like to register, it's been in the UK a couple year in storage and have been trying to figure out if I need an MOT or not to register it.

markymarkthree

3,595 posts

200 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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KieronFDUK said:
Interesting. I also have an old 1968 Nissan that I'd like to register, it's been in the UK a couple year in storage and have been trying to figure out if I need an MOT or not to register it.
Just get an MOT whether you need it or not. I am sure the fee (poss only £25) is not going to break the bank and it will be "piece of mind" for you and the rest of us out on the road.

vpr

3,927 posts

267 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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cjb44 said:
TooMany2cvs said:
No. Come 1st April 2019, you'll be able to change it to "VHI" (free VED, no MOT needed) - or "Historic" (free VED, MOT needed) if it's been substantially modified in the preceding 30yrs.
OK, thank you for that. I do not have a heritage certificate with the car so must investigate that avenue; it has not been substantially modified although it has had the chrome bumper mod etc. when it was first restored in 1988.
You'll only need the old title which will prove its age. No heritage cert needed. Lots of manufacturers don't even supply these.

I'm interested in this thread as I've been wondering the same. I have a TR6 which isn't registered yet and nor is it roadworthy so I assume I can't register it without telling a porky by saying it's roadworthy?

KieronFDUK

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206 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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markymarkthree said:
Just get an MOT whether you need it or not. I am sure the fee (poss only £25) is not going to break the bank and it will be "piece of mind" for you and the rest of us out on the road.
I rarely drive cars older than 3 years and It's been about 8 years since I last had a car that needed an MOT. I remember it being closer to £50 then.

Also with an unregistered car, it is not insured for road use, only laid up so I'd need to factor in transportation costs too. If I don't have to spend the money, I don't want to.

markymarkthree

3,595 posts

200 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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KieronFDUK said:
markymarkthree said:
Just get an MOT whether you need it or not. I am sure the fee (poss only £25) is not going to break the bank and it will be "piece of mind" for you and the rest of us out on the road.
I rarely drive cars older than 3 years and It's been about 8 years since I last had a car that needed an MOT. I remember it being closer to £50 then.

Also with an unregistered car, it is not insured for road use, only laid up so I'd need to factor in transportation costs too. If I don't have to spend the money, I don't want to.


Kwik-fit and others can be as low as £25 but where I go its a whole £30.