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Gaffer

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7,156 posts

306 months

Sunday 17th April 2005
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WD40 isnt good enough for my squeeky fanbelt, I rememeber someone mentioning to use instead Silicone spray.

Any idea where I can get some from? according to the guy at Halfords. silicone spray doesnt exist.

Claire

lanciachris

3,357 posts

270 months

Sunday 17th April 2005
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Putting any sort of grease on the drivebelt will just cause it to slip, meaning your alternator / fan / water pump / power steering / whatever else is on that belt doesnt get another power to do its job.

So dont do it.

docevi1

10,430 posts

277 months

Sunday 17th April 2005
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doesn't a squeaky fan belt mean that its not tight enough?

docevi1

10,430 posts

277 months

Sunday 17th April 2005
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anonymous said:
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Gaffer

Original Poster:

7,156 posts

306 months

Sunday 17th April 2005
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Basically, when I start the car up, there is a horrible squeeling noise, esp if its damp.

I use WD40 on the belt that runs round the front of the engine and that stops the noise.

Been happening for years and no amount of people looking at it has solved the problem.

Any ideas what it could be then..?

Claire

ultimasimon

9,646 posts

287 months

Sunday 17th April 2005
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Gaffer said:
Basically, when I start the car up, there is a horrible squeeling noise, esp if its damp.

I use WD40 on the belt that runs round the front of the engine and that stops the noise.

Been happening for years and no amount of people looking at it has solved the problem.

Any ideas what it could be then..?

Claire


Claire, the belt normaly squeals if its slipping, therefore spraying WD40 around it is not recomended as others correctly state as you want friction and WD40 will encourage slip.

If mechanics have looked and not found anything then I don't know what to suggest but normaly squealing belts are caused by either too little tension (normaly evident when the car is first started) or dry bearings on the water pump or belt tensioner (if fitted). If its the latter then maybe some of the WD40 is getting onto the idler bearing and stopping the squeak but I havent seen idler bearings on tensioners in modern cars for years.

Maybe someone else has a theory? I would substitue your WD for a tine of 'Beltslip' used on conveyors as it does what it says on the tin ie stops belt slip

Gaffer

Original Poster:

7,156 posts

306 months

Sunday 17th April 2005
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Its more like a tractor engine. the car is 6 years old now.

Where can I get this belt slip from?

Claire

docevi1

10,430 posts

277 months

Sunday 17th April 2005
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Gaffer, you can't be serious in wanting belt slip...

The fan belt needs friction to enable it be turned by the engine and turn the alternator, fans, water pump etc - no friction = dead engine.

It'd be much better to follow UltimaSimons other advice of trying of checking the tension in the belt (wobble it up and down and see how much play is on it - it should move, but not loads), check the teeth to make sure it's getting grip & then start looking at the auxillaries to see where the squeal is coming from.

The easiest way is to carefully use a long screwdriver carefully placed against the casing of one of the components and listen to the other end. Just make sure it doens't get tangled up in the fan belt etc...


as for your car been 6 years old, my engine is 30 years old next year and mine doesn't squeal

>> Edited by docevi1 on Sunday 17th April 16:47

yertis

19,707 posts

295 months

Sunday 17th April 2005
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docevi1 said:
Gaffer, you can't be serious in wanting belt slip...


WAKE UP BOY!



She doesn't want belt slip - BeltSlip apparently stops it.

docevi1

10,430 posts

277 months

Sunday 17th April 2005
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should I do a hasty edit

why call a product which stops belt slip, belt slip? thats just silly!

wedg1e

27,034 posts

294 months

Sunday 17th April 2005
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The squeal is caused by the belt slipping, but it may not be worth worrying about. What's happening is that the alternator finds itself being suddenly asked to recharge the battery after the drain caused by the starter motor. The electromagnetic load stalls the alternator, so the belt slips on the pulley for a couple of seconds until the alternator recovers.
You could tighten the belt and stop the slip, but too much tension can then overload the alternator bearings causing premature failure.
As long as the belt doesn't slip with, say the main beams on, heater going and rear demister on, it should be OK (if a little alarming).

Gaffer

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7,156 posts

306 months

Sunday 17th April 2005
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Thing is even after a 100 mile drive it still squeels.

Claire

Balmoral Green

42,561 posts

277 months

Sunday 17th April 2005
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You dont have a small furry animal of some sort stuck in there do you?

Gaffer

Original Poster:

7,156 posts

306 months

Sunday 17th April 2005
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I think it would be dead after 6 years..!
Claire

2 Smokin Barrels

31,993 posts

264 months

Sunday 17th April 2005
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Gaffer said:
I think it would be dead after 6 years..!
Claire


Not if it was a pulley cat.

(I'm off.....)

Wacky Racer

41,254 posts

276 months

Sunday 17th April 2005
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Buy a new fan belt, (cost less than a tenner), make sure it's tightened correctly, (2 minute job) problem solved........

brainsaw

152 posts

273 months

Sunday 17th April 2005
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halfords do do it... I have a can of Halfords own brand silicone lube in the garage which was bought (not by me) for the exact purpose you mention.. and did the job a treat

Byff

4,427 posts

290 months

Sunday 17th April 2005
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Beltslip is only a temp fix - get yourself a new belt.

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

263 months

Sunday 17th April 2005
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Maybe check for old crud on the pulleys? Give em a good clean.

Trooper2

6,676 posts

260 months

Sunday 17th April 2005
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I've got the same problem with my truck with 208,000 miles on it. I was told to rough up the v slot on the pulleys with some Scotch Brite or fine grit sand paper; as the pulleys age they get so polished that even new belts will squeal.

I have found that belt dressing spray (anti-slip) only works for a day or two if the pulleys are polished smooth.

>> Edited by Trooper2 on Sunday 17th April 19:52

>> Edited by Trooper2 on Sunday 17th April 19:52