Why have I lost my interest in riding?
Why have I lost my interest in riding?
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Esceptico

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8,897 posts

140 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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I learnt to ride back in the 90s. Loved it. Spent all week looking forward to rides at the weekend. Then had a big accident. Fortunate not to have been killed or crippled. Gave up riding on the road but after a few years went back to doing the odd track day.

In 2014 started riding on the road again. Went back to how I was in the 90s - loving it and out at every opportunity. Treated myself to bikes that I had always dreamt of owning. Then this summer I did my first track day for a few years (and first since getting back on the road). Really enjoyed it. Yet that has coincided with a sudden loss of interest in riding. Bizarre. Of course I have still gone out but for some reason I can’t explain, the urge has gone and I have definitely enjoyed riding less and also ridden much less.

Partly I think I am bored of riding the same roads - if you start at home and ride for a few hours then you do get stuck with the same routes. Partly I think the trackday hammered home how little of the bike’s potential you can use on the road. I try to ride defensively but that means the margin for error is so large that it is not as exciting as it could be.

Fortunately I have not had any accidents since starting again nor even any meaningful incidents.

I am waiting to see whether my feelings change in the Spring.

WaferThinHam

1,680 posts

161 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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I think only you can answer why you've lost interest in it.

if you're only ever looking to go really fast then road riding isn't for you. Personally I find the entire culture interest too, so I guess it depends what you're trying to get from it.

I take what you mean about track riding detracting from road riding sometimes. In my last 12 years of riding I've just had a track bikes a handful of times, but I've always found them to be too limiting and expensive. I .e. you can't just go for a ride because you fancy it.


Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

292 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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Do you ride just for the sake of riding or to go somewhere? I find the most enjoyable rides are often to get somewhere I would have wanted to go even if I didn't have the bike, this gets round the 'am I having fun yet?' syndrome you can get when riding for it's own sake.

SAS Tom

3,755 posts

205 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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I found myself in a similar position in May last year. Got a fireblade which I thought I always wanted but found I just didn’t like it so I sold it after about a month or so. I looked for another bike but couldn’t decide on anything I actually wanted despite having more money than I ever have had to spend on a bike. In the end I decided not to bother for a few reasons;

I have ridden most of the roads in every direction for miles around. I have some favourites but that means I end up doing the same thing every time.
I work in the industry and although I enjoy my job, it does wear you down. There is a very small percentage of people that come in where you can have a decent conversation with. The rest usually have to play a game of one upmanship, tell you boring stories about how fast they are, their “adventures” riding in mainland Europe or moan when the cheap st they bought turns out to be cheap st.

I started cycling again both on and off road. There’s no real restrictions on what you can do, it’s good fun, you can talk to people who don’t feel the need to show off at any opportunity and even bad weather doesn’t stop play.

The only thing I want to do is track days now. I don’t want to get a track bike as I don’t want to sink the money into it only to obliterate it again so I’ll just do 1 or 2 a year and hire a bike instead.

I always thought I would never go without a bike since I started riding. I haven’t had one for over 6 months and don’t miss it one bit. I’ve tried to convince myself I do miss it but then have no interest in any of the bikes I look at for sale. I’ll probably come back to it but I don’t know when.

moanthebairns

19,177 posts

229 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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Have you recently bought a Honda. They tend to do this to you.

Jazoli

9,702 posts

281 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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moanthebairns said:
Have you recently bought a Honda. They tend to do this to you.
He had two Honda's in a row, sucked the life out of him hehe

BobSaunders

3,110 posts

186 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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Off road - enduro / trials riding.

So much more safer than road riding... sort of.

mckeann

2,996 posts

260 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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I gave up road riding 3 years ago. Sold my street triple R to Moanthebairns for an absolute steal (he basically robbed me) and just concentrated on Trackdays. I've never looked back.

For me, road riding was fun when it was new, I had a load of new biker mates and we used to go out every dry weekend. But as we grew up (well, got older at least, I'm still an immature idiot) they were all too busy at weekends going to weddings and other ste stuff like that, so the number of people on the social runs dropped away to fk all. I did another couple of years of trying to enjoy it myself, but I either found myself riding far too fast and chasing the trackday feelings, or riding far too slowly, concerned about every kerb, tree or potential slippery surface.

With Trackdays, I'm still loving it. It never gets boring going round in circles. The only limiting factor is time and money. It's obviously much easier and cheaper to jump on a road bike for an afternoon blast, than the planning and expense of a trackday. But i think it's still worth it and currently spend every penny I earn on Trackdays. It can't last forever but I want to enjoy it while I'm young enough. I can be sensible and old anytime.

black-k1

12,811 posts

260 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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Join us on the next Old Gits trip in June and ride some stunning new roads, meet a great bunch of new mates and enjoy some great banter, then see if you want to give up. biggrin

www.old-gits.org

Esceptico

Original Poster:

8,897 posts

140 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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The Old Gits tour sounds good. I would like to do that one year (I’ve already organised a trip to Japan for 2018).

I’ve got friends that do tours in their cars (Wales/the Alps) and I’ve joined them in the past but I’ve failed to talk them into doing something on two wheels. I think we are all too old and too soft!

I would like to do some more track days this year.

sc0tt

18,310 posts

232 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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I find road riding boring. Much prefer the track.

King Herald

23,501 posts

247 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2018
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black-k1 said:
Join us on the next Old Gits trip in June and ride some stunning new roads, meet a great bunch of new mates and enjoy some great banter, then see if you want to give up. biggrin

www.old-gits.org
I’ve always liked the idea of doing something like this, but in reality I find riding in a group frustrating and irritating.

Few months ago was off to Wales with a dozen old friends on our bikes, but the chaos as we traversed the towns, traffic lights, people getting left behind, lead rider overtaking cars, then stopping to make sure we were all there, and said cars passed us all by...... really annoying. Some people like to overtake, zoom ahead, others are happy just to go with the flow, follow the speed limits etc.

That is me, boring old git. biggrin Maybe I would fit in perfectly.

black-k1

12,811 posts

260 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2018
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King Herald said:
black-k1 said:
Join us on the next Old Gits trip in June and ride some stunning new roads, meet a great bunch of new mates and enjoy some great banter, then see if you want to give up. biggrin

www.old-gits.org
I’ve always liked the idea of doing something like this, but in reality I find riding in a group frustrating and irritating.

Few months ago was off to Wales with a dozen old friends on our bikes, but the chaos as we traversed the towns, traffic lights, people getting left behind, lead rider overtaking cars, then stopping to make sure we were all there, and said cars passed us all by...... really annoying. Some people like to overtake, zoom ahead, others are happy just to go with the flow, follow the speed limits etc.

That is me, boring old git. biggrin Maybe I would fit in perfectly.
That's the whole point of the Old Gits, you do what you want how you want. if you don't want to ride in a group then don't! If you want to do solo ride outs then that's fine. Likewise, if you want to tag along with someone else then that's fine too. What's good is that when you get back to the hotel after a great days riding you know there will be a whole bunch of people with the same interest, speaking the same language, to share your stories with over a beer or two.

By the way, even when we go out in groups our maximum group numbers tend to be between 6 and 8 as larger groups than that are impossible to keep together and just ps off other road users.

sunbeam alpine

7,251 posts

219 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2018
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I haven't ridden a bike for years, but I can understand that you could easily lose interest in road riding. I imagine that the combination of camera enforcement and the general "anti-speed" attitude (even where it is safe) make the enjoyment of most modern vehicles difficult.

Here in Europe the police are still allowed to hide away (plus we don't have the 14-day rule for speeding tickets) so any spirited outing is followed by a nervous few weeks checking the post!

Even a lot of modern diesel cars are so capable that you can get into licence-losing territory very easily, bikes more so.

These days I get my thrills on the road with a 50-year old classic Alfa, which feels involving at much lower speeds, or with a faster car on track days.

CarsOrBikes

1,158 posts

215 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2018
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I've found myself riding less and less over the last few years, somewhat due to surgery but although I think a lot about going out, it's the getting off my arse and doing it that's the issue. The weather has been fairly consistently rubbish and random around the areas I like to ride, which for some would be boring.

Riding the same roads is something I quite like but I ride around the Snowdonia area and North Wales from the Wirral, I have no problem other than the summer tossers that have spent all day drinking then get in their cars and campers or tow plastic pigs about with their families not paying attention to us lot, but I also accept that us lot can be a pain appearing out of nowhere so I just learn to be patient. Overall it's the motivation to get moving, she says she doesn't mind, and even suggests it haha, once out I love it and often have a quiet word with myself for not doing it, and once in the mood I could happily ride a couple of hundred miles daily.

The other aspect is I'm a bit billy no mates, there're people I know but I'm terrible at staying in touch, also some of them are older than me and have a lot more money, and are off during the week swanning about while I'm at work dreaming about it. I lost my job though in September and am tempted to stay off all year and do car track days, maybe pluck up courage to try a bike one, catch up on my riding and fix everything on my vehicles I never have time to do,
I can't afford to, but could survive doing it for one year with expenses, and I wonder if it's what I need.

Not relying on good weather on planned days off and trying to get a short notice day off when I know the weather's going to be good, funny looks at weekends when despite the 'I don't mind' yet still getting remarks about being left on her own etc.

It's sad hearing that bikers who've loved it, lose the inclination, we're battered legally and financially, it's hard to keep the enthusiasm with such a crap attitude from all around us who sometimes appear to wish us all extinct, yet the occasional gem while out comes from those that stop to admire your bike, the old couple that stop and chat while you're holding your coffee at a scenic café stop, the kids that wow to their parents, walking past or peering through car windows whilst waving, the dogs that pull the owners down the road chasing your back tire when leaving the house, just the calm when out alone, sitting atop a remote pass somewhere, stopped to contemplate, maybe the sequence of turns just experienced, the open view, or where next...............

the answer sunshine, is get on it, sit on it in the garage, think about the possible destination, ignore background noise, and tell yourself ... yeah, i'm off!

garypotter

2,083 posts

181 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2018
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Totally understand, owned a Fireblade for 14 years and loved the bike but social circle ended up being me myself and I as we all got old, had children and weekends became non existant.

Bought a BMW r100 RT to smoke around summer 2 years ago and part ex'd for a GS1200 and loving the bike and loving being on my own. Not the quickest bike but the enjoyment has come back and have booked a 3 day tour in northern France in May this year. Did not think it would happen to me but a change of bike and a change of riding style.

sjtscott

4,215 posts

262 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2018
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For me if I wasn't currently commuting by bike year round because I live and work in London then I think I'd hardly be riding at all now. Commuting takes about 95% on average of my biking time each year. To add that I have a young son now which is the sole reason 2017 really had next to no fun bike riding so maybe that figure for most of 2017 really was about 99% commuting.
For me I can still actually enjoy riding my bike on the commute some days knowing its getting me to work in the quickest possible way. Certainly it really works in the summer months with the nice weather and for me its like killing two birds with one stone. Actually this morning with empty roads in London was good riding too.
I'm not interested in stupid speeds on the road and I'm not interested in track riding - I bought an unfaired bike to help me keep my out of town speeds down and I have to say it works - having a bike with plenty of low down stomp and a fat torque curve works for me for a road bike ie. effortless acceleration up to sensible speeds smile
I'm planning to move this year out of London so maybe if I can find the time I'll start the fun/social riding again.

tvrolet

4,771 posts

313 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2018
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I guess it depends what you want/expect from riding. As a yoof I aspired to have the fastest bikes/cars available, and ride/drive as fast as possible. At 18 I had a Norton Commando, at 19 a Z900 - both the fastest things pennies could buy at the time. I went through a 944 turbo, 911 and a Cerbera until it struck home (thanks to track days frown) that what I thought was fast on the road really wasn't...and the real fast guys were faster than me on track. So I then went through a series of track cars ending up with an LS-engined 500hp Tuscan Challenge racer. But by then it was very clear then going fast for kicks on the road just didn't cut it any more - and going fast on track was getting a bit 'same-old' with the limitation being me and not the car (I didn't do bike track days, but I know the outcome would be the same).

My epiphany was realising what I enjoyed was the challenge and the reward of riding/driving well...and that didn't necessarily mean fast. And indeed the more challenging the ride/drive the greater the reward. To put it in perspective, I've had a GPz1100 for years - it's 'old' so no-where near as accomplished as modern machinery, but 120hp fast. It's been SORN'd and not even started since I got the Indian. I'd far rather get through a set of bends at 70 on the Indian - which might be near the capability of the bike, than zip through at 80 on the GPz when I'm just scratching the surface. On 4 wheels too, I actually prefer hustling the (5.7 Hemi) Jeep through the twisties near it's limits to cruising through in the Masser 20mph faster and not breaking sweat. Again proved with about 10,000 miles PA in the Jeep, and about 1,000 in the Masser.

Everyone's different, or maybe it's an age thing, but for me at least I'd get more pleasure riding the 'difficult' stuff well, than riding the 'fast/accomplished' stuff at 50% (or less!) just to 'go fast'. To the extent if I ever buy another bike it'll be a hand-change foot-clutch classic, as that sounds even more challenging to ride well. So go retro, classic. bagger, adventure, whatever and get the challenge from getting the most out of it, and leave the 'just going fast' behind.

black-k1 said:
King Herald said:
black-k1 said:
Join us on the next Old Gits trip in June and ride some stunning new roads, meet a great bunch of new mates and enjoy some great banter, then see if you want to give up. biggrin

www.old-gits.org
I’ve always liked the idea of doing something like this, but in reality I find riding in a group frustrating and irritating.

Few months ago was off to Wales with a dozen old friends on our bikes, but the chaos as we traversed the towns, traffic lights, people getting left behind, lead rider overtaking cars, then stopping to make sure we were all there, and said cars passed us all by...... really annoying. Some people like to overtake, zoom ahead, others are happy just to go with the flow, follow the speed limits etc.

That is me, boring old git. biggrin Maybe I would fit in perfectly.
That's the whole point of the Old Gits, you do what you want how you want. if you don't want to ride in a group then don't! If you want to do solo ride outs then that's fine. Likewise, if you want to tag along with someone else then that's fine too. What's good is that when you get back to the hotel after a great days riding you know there will be a whole bunch of people with the same interest, speaking the same language, to share your stories with over a beer or two.

By the way, even when we go out in groups our maximum group numbers tend to be between 6 and 8 as larger groups than that are impossible to keep together and just ps off other road users.
Just to throw my oar in, I did the OG trip last year for the first time, and going again this year too so that must say something. Usually I ride solo for day-trips, or in a group of maybe 3 or 4 for an annual Scottish tour where we're all very evenly matched for pace. So I'd never ridden with a large group before, and having done the OG last year...I still haven't ridden with a large group!

On day-1 I knew no-one, but 'tagged along' in a smallish group once I'd met up at a hotel. On the ride down the group kind of split again but also acquired new faces as folks started to naturally gravitate together with folks wanting to ride around the same pace. But also pretty much everyone has sat-nav so there's no real need to keep in 'tight formation' so long as the destination/route is agreed. And so long as whoever's first, when they decide to stop for pee/fuel/coffee/photos they flag down the rest then you run at your own pace. I was surprised with no 'organisation' on the road how things just 'worked' with like-minded riders. No chosen lead rider, whoever pulled away first went first; if someone wanted to take the lead so be it; if someone wanted to drop back so be it. We never really made the point of stopping specially to wait as no-one was racing-on ahead, and so long as everyone could see a light behind them periodically we were good in the 'group', which may have been 5 miles apart or more at times with half a dozen riders.

I've no idea how fast/slow any of the other 20-odd other riders in their unofficial 'groups' (or riding solo) were choosing to ride at - some were no doubt knee-down, some going for maximum mileage per day, and possibly others just cruising along; but in 'our' wee group (which changed daily) I'd class it as maybe a 'fast touring' pace and doing around 200-300 mile ride-outs each day. So covering ground at a reasonable rate of knots, but certainly not racing or going anywhere near flat out and with enough stops for the views etc (and a dip in the Med smile). Fast enough to be fun and focus the mind, but enough spare pace to reel the group back in if you wanted to.

But while I enjoyed the group riding down to and around the South of France, on the way back I did 1000+ of the miles on my own as others had different plans (and no-one else was coming back up to Scotland!) and I rather enjoyed that too. Plotting this year to maybe take a longer route down, solo perhaps, through Belgium, Germany, Austria and Italy - but I'll see how I feel nearer the time. So even if you choose to do everything solo, at least booking up with the OG gives you the motivation to put a date in a diary, get some miles in on great roads where it's warm and sunny and meet some folks to have beers with of an evening and listen to the tales of woe of BMW switch-gear and electrics wink

The only change I'm making this year is I've bought a mesh jacket; my regular heavy leather jacket was just too hot at times - and I've never had that problem in the UK!

Pat H

8,058 posts

287 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2018
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sunbeam alpine said:
These days I get my thrills on the road with a 50-year old classic Alfa, which feels involving at much lower speeds.
Yep.

These days I have a selection of crap old bikes.

The insurance costs next to nothing and you never lose any money on an old bike.

There is always plenty of fettling to keep you interested and there is much more fun to be had riding an old knacker flat out that having to pussy foot around on a fast bike.

There are few pleasures in life as sweet as pottering to the pub on an old bike on a sunny afternoon.


mak

1,445 posts

257 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2018
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What bikes have you got op ? I am pretty sure you have an Aprilia rs 250 in the garage and also remember you saying modern litre sports bikes are no fun on the road, I agree . A modern super naked next to the rs is an ideal pairing smile