Which disc road bike for longer/hillier (100m+) rides?
Discussion
Happy New Year to everyone!
I am after the collective wisdom and input please of PH and its cycling fans with regards to an imminent purchase
I currently have a Planet X Nanolight road bike that I have re-built as more of a TT bike. Even though the geometry is relaxed, I get a decent position that I can maintain using the TT bars, brakes and shifters. This is the only bike I have whether I ride on the turbo, cycle outside at the weekend or do a triathlon/sportive.
So, having entered some longer, hillier sportives and triathlons in 2018 I have been considering getting an additional bike to share the load.
The one I am drawn to is the Ribble 883 Disc ( https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-aero-883-dis...), but I will admit I am a bit off the pace in terms of what else is available and well regarded. Canyon seem highly regarded as do Rose, but lets see what people think.
Must haves:disc brakes (not because I believe they are better or worse, but because I already have well setup rim brakes, so want something different)
Nice to haves: Di2 / eTap compatible
I had a budget (already enlarged) of £3k so in that ball park, although there is nothing to say it can't be increased slightly again if it is justifiable (to me!)
Many thanks,
Griff
I am after the collective wisdom and input please of PH and its cycling fans with regards to an imminent purchase
I currently have a Planet X Nanolight road bike that I have re-built as more of a TT bike. Even though the geometry is relaxed, I get a decent position that I can maintain using the TT bars, brakes and shifters. This is the only bike I have whether I ride on the turbo, cycle outside at the weekend or do a triathlon/sportive.
So, having entered some longer, hillier sportives and triathlons in 2018 I have been considering getting an additional bike to share the load.
The one I am drawn to is the Ribble 883 Disc ( https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-aero-883-dis...), but I will admit I am a bit off the pace in terms of what else is available and well regarded. Canyon seem highly regarded as do Rose, but lets see what people think.
Must haves:disc brakes (not because I believe they are better or worse, but because I already have well setup rim brakes, so want something different)
Nice to haves: Di2 / eTap compatible
I had a budget (already enlarged) of £3k so in that ball park, although there is nothing to say it can't be increased slightly again if it is justifiable (to me!)
Many thanks,
Griff
TheGriffter said:
Happy New Year to everyone!
I am after the collective wisdom and input please of PH and its cycling fans with regards to an imminent purchase
I currently have a Planet X Nanolight road bike that I have re-built as more of a TT bike. Even though the geometry is relaxed, I get a decent position that I can maintain using the TT bars, brakes and shifters. This is the only bike I have whether I ride on the turbo, cycle outside at the weekend or do a triathlon/sportive.
So, having entered some longer, hillier sportives and triathlons in 2018 I have been considering getting an additional bike to share the load.
The one I am drawn to is the Ribble 883 Disc ( https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-aero-883-dis...), but I will admit I am a bit off the pace in terms of what else is available and well regarded. Canyon seem highly regarded as do Rose, but lets see what people think.
Must haves:disc brakes (not because I believe they are better or worse, but because I already have well setup rim brakes, so want something different)
Nice to haves: Di2 / eTap compatible
I had a budget (already enlarged) of £3k so in that ball park, although there is nothing to say it can't be increased slightly again if it is justifiable (to me!)
Many thanks,
Griff
E-Tap is wireless, so almost any bike can be made to be compatible. I am after the collective wisdom and input please of PH and its cycling fans with regards to an imminent purchase
I currently have a Planet X Nanolight road bike that I have re-built as more of a TT bike. Even though the geometry is relaxed, I get a decent position that I can maintain using the TT bars, brakes and shifters. This is the only bike I have whether I ride on the turbo, cycle outside at the weekend or do a triathlon/sportive.
So, having entered some longer, hillier sportives and triathlons in 2018 I have been considering getting an additional bike to share the load.
The one I am drawn to is the Ribble 883 Disc ( https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-aero-883-dis...), but I will admit I am a bit off the pace in terms of what else is available and well regarded. Canyon seem highly regarded as do Rose, but lets see what people think.
Must haves:disc brakes (not because I believe they are better or worse, but because I already have well setup rim brakes, so want something different)
Nice to haves: Di2 / eTap compatible
I had a budget (already enlarged) of £3k so in that ball park, although there is nothing to say it can't be increased slightly again if it is justifiable (to me!)
Many thanks,
Griff
If you like Planet X, have a another look at Planet X bikes or maybe Giant Defy advanced as they ave plenty of disc options.
Bit of a Canyon fan since getting the Aeroad last year... At the same my cycling buddy bought one of these in blue:
https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/road/ultimate/ultimat...
Ultegra Mechanical
Discs
Carbon Aero Cockpit
40mm Carbon Wheels
Great looking bike, stiff, light and relatively quick on the flats.
Bike of the year 2017 - http://www.cyclingweekly.com/reviews/road-bikes/ca...
https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/road/ultimate/ultimat...
Ultegra Mechanical
Discs
Carbon Aero Cockpit
40mm Carbon Wheels
Great looking bike, stiff, light and relatively quick on the flats.
Bike of the year 2017 - http://www.cyclingweekly.com/reviews/road-bikes/ca...
How about one of these:
https://masoncycles.cc/products/definition-red-eta...
Certainly stand out on the club run
Edited to say I just saw the £3000 budget.
https://masoncycles.cc/products/definition-red-eta...
Certainly stand out on the club run
Edited to say I just saw the £3000 budget.
Edited by simonF10 on Tuesday 2nd January 16:46
russy01 said:
Bit of a Canyon fan since getting the Aeroad last year... At the same my cycling buddy bought one of these in blue:
https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/road/ultimate/ultimat...
Ultegra Mechanical
Discs
Carbon Aero Cockpit
40mm Carbon Wheels
Great looking bike, stiff, light and relatively quick on the flats.
Bike of the year 2017 - http://www.cyclingweekly.com/reviews/road-bikes/ca...
Sticking with Canyon, if you want something which is more comfort driven, how about an Endurace......?https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/road/ultimate/ultimat...
Ultegra Mechanical
Discs
Carbon Aero Cockpit
40mm Carbon Wheels
Great looking bike, stiff, light and relatively quick on the flats.
Bike of the year 2017 - http://www.cyclingweekly.com/reviews/road-bikes/ca...
In budget,
Discs
Ultegra Di2
https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/road/endurace/endurac...
i’ve been riding a Canyon endurace CF SLX 8 most of last year. Great bike, comfy & quick and bomb proof reliability with shimano. Nice looking bike IMO as well if you go for the red.
https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/road/endurace/2018/en...
https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/road/endurace/2018/en...
Loads of options out there, but a 'general' thing to look for is a frame geometry 'stack to reach' (STR) of around 1.5
To put it in perspective, a full on TT bike has a STR of 1.2, aero road bikes are typically around 1.35 and a all day mile munching road bike is 1.45 - 1.55. The higher the STR the more upright you sit basically.
If it was my money I would go for a Bianchi Infinito. You don't get the best wheels or drive train for your money however the frames are excellent with great vibration cancelling technology.
To put it in perspective, a full on TT bike has a STR of 1.2, aero road bikes are typically around 1.35 and a all day mile munching road bike is 1.45 - 1.55. The higher the STR the more upright you sit basically.
If it was my money I would go for a Bianchi Infinito. You don't get the best wheels or drive train for your money however the frames are excellent with great vibration cancelling technology.
oddball1313 said:
i’ve been riding a Canyon endurace CF SLX 8 most of last year. Great bike, comfy & quick and bomb proof reliability with shimano. Nice looking bike IMO as well if you go for the red.
https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/road/endurace/2018/en...
I’ve got a 2017 CF SL 9.0, great value when I bought it....https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/road/endurace/2018/en...
I was going to suggest the Endurance, but considering you spend quite a lot of time in an Aero position for Tri's I assume you'll find the Ultimate very comfy by comparison as is.
Either way, lovely bikes. Another chap I know has the Endurance and bombs round on 28mm tyres in complete comfort...
Either way, lovely bikes. Another chap I know has the Endurance and bombs round on 28mm tyres in complete comfort...
Another Canyon vote here. Got an Endurace CF SLX 8.0i around 18 months ago and it does everything I need - discs and Di2 and very light for this type of bike. A bit over your budget and they have gone up in price over the past year but the non-SLX version (heavier but still carbon) can save a chunk of cash.
Wow - thanks everyone for the great replies.
The Rose looks lovely, and I had never heard of Mason, but sorry that Canyon Ultimate in blue is something else and looks stunning!
The SLX Di2 version https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/road/ultimate/2018/ul... obviously blows the budget, but (and here comes my "man maths / logic")...
I already have some nice (T4+) carbon clip on aerobars so if I bought some Di2 aerobar shifters and used the 5 way Di2 junction then essentially I would have a bike that could within a few minutes be switched between standard spec and "TT / dual shift spec" - that means I wouldn't need a dedicated TT bike in the future, ergo money saved
I put all my measurements into the sizing calculator and I was on the cusp of a M or an L. Being 6.0 with a 32" inside leg I was leaning more towards the L, but will keep thinking.
One question - I love taking apart and rebuilding my other bikes, but with this being significantly more expensive, can they be worked on at home by me, or do they need to be looked after by professionals?
Cheers, Griff (excited)
The Rose looks lovely, and I had never heard of Mason, but sorry that Canyon Ultimate in blue is something else and looks stunning!
The SLX Di2 version https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/road/ultimate/2018/ul... obviously blows the budget, but (and here comes my "man maths / logic")...
I already have some nice (T4+) carbon clip on aerobars so if I bought some Di2 aerobar shifters and used the 5 way Di2 junction then essentially I would have a bike that could within a few minutes be switched between standard spec and "TT / dual shift spec" - that means I wouldn't need a dedicated TT bike in the future, ergo money saved
I put all my measurements into the sizing calculator and I was on the cusp of a M or an L. Being 6.0 with a 32" inside leg I was leaning more towards the L, but will keep thinking.
One question - I love taking apart and rebuilding my other bikes, but with this being significantly more expensive, can they be worked on at home by me, or do they need to be looked after by professionals?
Cheers, Griff (excited)
I have discs in my winter bike. Never again.
Heavier more complicated and the braking is no better than decent rim brakes.
Having said that it's getting harder to find a decent bike without.
To answer the OP question though, what do you mean by longer rides? I've ridden my advanced propel 125+ miles without any problems. I'd only buy an endurance bike now if I was doubling that.
Heavier more complicated and the braking is no better than decent rim brakes.
Having said that it's getting harder to find a decent bike without.
To answer the OP question though, what do you mean by longer rides? I've ridden my advanced propel 125+ miles without any problems. I'd only buy an endurance bike now if I was doubling that.
TheGriffter said:
One question - I love taking apart and rebuilding my other bikes, but with this being significantly more expensive, can they be worked on at home by me, or do they need to be looked after by professionals?
its just a bike, do it yourself if you have the tools for it. the only thing i dont do now is cutting steerers. What about a Genesis Datum 30? Full carbon, all day riding geometry and under budget for those upgrades.
I think it shows at nearly 9kg by the spec sheet but the wheels are fairly budget and the tyres might be wire bead as the CDF ones are.
Swap out a few bits and you'll probably knock it down to 8kg.
I think it shows at nearly 9kg by the spec sheet but the wheels are fairly budget and the tyres might be wire bead as the CDF ones are.
Swap out a few bits and you'll probably knock it down to 8kg.
Thanks for all the thoughts - probably made it harder - some beautiful bikes there!
I've lost count of how long I have spent on the Canyon website in the last week (although at the moment it is just time spent, not money spent!).
So I have narrowed it down to:
Ultimate CF SL DISC 8.0 AERO - https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/road/ultimate/ultimat...
Ultimate CF SL DISC 8.0 - https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/road/ultimate/2018/ul...
Cube Attain GTC Pro Disc 2017 - https://www.rutlandcycling.com/bikes/road-bikes/cu...
Daily debates now revolve around
- Canyon's have Ultegra v Cube with 105 - currently use SRAM so no problem with 105, could always upgrade later
- Cube frame is not Di2 compatible
- Cube wheels would need upgrading eventually
- Price - wow, I can't quite believe the price of the Cube (even for a 2017 model) - seems exceptional value
I have sat on a 56cm Cube (2018 model) and it is a lovely bike, so I have ordered via Evans a 58cm (albeit the 2018 model) to test ride this week which will hopefully let me reach a decision.
Thanks, Griff
I've lost count of how long I have spent on the Canyon website in the last week (although at the moment it is just time spent, not money spent!).
So I have narrowed it down to:
Ultimate CF SL DISC 8.0 AERO - https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/road/ultimate/ultimat...
Ultimate CF SL DISC 8.0 - https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/road/ultimate/2018/ul...
Cube Attain GTC Pro Disc 2017 - https://www.rutlandcycling.com/bikes/road-bikes/cu...
Daily debates now revolve around
- Canyon's have Ultegra v Cube with 105 - currently use SRAM so no problem with 105, could always upgrade later
- Cube frame is not Di2 compatible
- Cube wheels would need upgrading eventually
- Price - wow, I can't quite believe the price of the Cube (even for a 2017 model) - seems exceptional value
I have sat on a 56cm Cube (2018 model) and it is a lovely bike, so I have ordered via Evans a 58cm (albeit the 2018 model) to test ride this week which will hopefully let me reach a decision.
Thanks, Griff
Bit of a thread update.
I have test ridden and really like the Cube Agree C62 Disc (2017) model and there are some good deals around. I am also going to the Canyon road bike event on Sunday where they will have the Aeroad, Ultimate and Endurace available to test ride - really looking forward to seeing them in the flesh, seeing how they size/fit etc.
Then off to the piggy bank.
Anyone else been to the Canyon events and got any things I should be aware of?
I have test ridden and really like the Cube Agree C62 Disc (2017) model and there are some good deals around. I am also going to the Canyon road bike event on Sunday where they will have the Aeroad, Ultimate and Endurace available to test ride - really looking forward to seeing them in the flesh, seeing how they size/fit etc.
Then off to the piggy bank.
Anyone else been to the Canyon events and got any things I should be aware of?
Have you got an Evans near you? Best place I found for demos. You'll have to book it and leave your details but they have a really wide selection of bikes unlike a lot of lbs.
Look at Rose and Radon (I think they're called) if you like the Canyon business model, also Dolan and Merlin.
I was in a similar position to you a couple of years ago, tempted by the value of Canyon and Rose. Then work did a CTW and I could look at and ride real bikes. Giant are near and I fell for a Propel, ticked all my sensible logical value boxes, and it was red and just plain looked better than anything else I'd seen or tried.
I Everested on it a month after I bought it. Some of the stuff you read about endurance v speed makes sense and some of it is b
ks, it is just a bike, beautifully simple. If I had 3 grand I'd be looking at the best titanium frame I could find and stick reasonable wheels and a basic groupset on it. That way you get to drag the new bike pleasure out even longer
Look at Rose and Radon (I think they're called) if you like the Canyon business model, also Dolan and Merlin.
I was in a similar position to you a couple of years ago, tempted by the value of Canyon and Rose. Then work did a CTW and I could look at and ride real bikes. Giant are near and I fell for a Propel, ticked all my sensible logical value boxes, and it was red and just plain looked better than anything else I'd seen or tried.
I Everested on it a month after I bought it. Some of the stuff you read about endurance v speed makes sense and some of it is b
ks, it is just a bike, beautifully simple. If I had 3 grand I'd be looking at the best titanium frame I could find and stick reasonable wheels and a basic groupset on it. That way you get to drag the new bike pleasure out even longer Gassing Station | Pedal Powered | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff