Is equity release a scam?
Is equity release a scam?
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davhill

Original Poster:

5,263 posts

214 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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As per title, really. Get it on the house I holiday let or could rent out. Use dosh to relocate and leave house 2 (earn wage from house 1) in my will.

sidicks

25,218 posts

251 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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davhill said:
As per title, really. Get it on the house I holiday let or could rent out. Use dosh to relocate and leave house 2 (earn wage from house 1) in my will.
The answer is no.

Why do you think it is a ‘scam’?

R8Steve

4,150 posts

205 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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It's potentially a foolish thing to do depending what you want the money for but it's certainly not a scam.


davhill

Original Poster:

5,263 posts

214 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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Hmm, interesting-details later.

Monkeylegend

29,298 posts

261 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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As long as you read the small print and understand what you are getting yourself into then no it isn't a scam.

If you do none of the above it is still not a scam.


davhill

Original Poster:

5,263 posts

214 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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Thanks, people.

The burning question is a long shot so pardon me if I'm blowing bubbles. Would the releaser permit me to rent out house 1 and live in house 2, which I'd buy with the funds?

eldar

25,291 posts

226 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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Monkeylegend said:
As long as you read the small print and understand what you are getting yourself into then no it isn't a scam.

If you do none of the above it is still not a scam.
Very much this. Some of the advertising doesn't make the risks (and fees) at all clear.

sidicks

25,218 posts

251 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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eldar said:
Very much this. Some of the advertising doesn't make the risks (and fees) at all clear.
Really? Can you give some examples? Most firms involved in this market are absolutely clear when it comes to the risks (and costs).

Granfondo

12,241 posts

236 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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sidicks said:
eldar said:
Very much this. Some of the advertising doesn't make the risks (and fees) at all clear.
Really? Can you give some examples? Most firms involved in this market are absolutely clear when it comes to the risks (and costs).
Defend everything finance at all costs! rofl

sidicks

25,218 posts

251 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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Granfondo said:
Defend everything finance at all costs! rofl
sleep
I’m defending nothing.

Let’s see what information he provides, then we can decide...

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

123 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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davhill said:
Thanks, people.

The burning question is a long shot so pardon me if I'm blowing bubbles. Would the releaser permit me to rent out house 1 and live in house 2, which I'd buy with the funds?
Why don't you ask them?

drainbrain

5,637 posts

141 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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eldar said:
Very much this. Some of the advertising doesn't make the risks (and fees) at all clear.
My ma-in-law (age 82) was advised by her brother to get involved in one of these "scams". Hasn't a scooby about it other than how much they gave her. Doesn't understand why it costs her nothing, how compounding interest works, or what's outstanding either now or in the future. Bonkers. Like something out of 'Better Call Saul'.

Of course muggins will bail her out of it, but for goodness sake! These 'scams' need done under the supervision of family members and trusted solicitors. In fact I'd say if the clowncatcher organising it doesn't insist on family involvement and legal oversight then it's definitely shady.

Otoh in some circumstances where there aren't any options then properly executed by certain specialists they certainly have a useful place.


sidicks

25,218 posts

251 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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drainbrain said:
My ma-in-law (age 82) was advised by her brother to get involved in one of these "scams". Hasn't a scooby about it other than how much they gave her. Doesn't understand why it costs her nothing, how compounding interest works, or what's outstanding either now or in the future. Bonkers. Like something out of 'Better Call Saul'.

Of course muggins will bail her out of it, but for goodness sake! These 'scams' need done under the supervision of family members and trusted solicitors. In fact I'd say if the clowncatcher organising it doesn't insist on family involvement and legal oversight then it's definitely shady.

Otoh in some circumstances where there aren't any options then properly executed by certain specialists they certainly have a place.
Which, in my experience, they are. Just waiting for evidence from the contrary from elder and Gran Fondo etc, but I'm not holding my breath.

See here:
http://www.equityreleasecouncil.com/standards/

Edited by sidicks on Monday 8th January 20:09

55palfers

6,375 posts

194 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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If one has no children and the house is paid for, equity release would be a great way to fund a wonderful lifestyle (tax-free?) in one's autumn years.

CrgT16

2,526 posts

138 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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Equity release is just a loan, a loan against the current value of your house. It’s just restructuring your current mortgage either by making it longer or upping the payments. There will be interest to pay on that “equity release”. Think of it as a loan... no scam. It’s not free money!

Sheepshanks

41,093 posts

149 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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55palfers said:
If one has no children and the house is paid for, equity release would be a great way to fund a wonderful lifestyle (tax-free?) in one's autumn years.
There's other things to think of. My father-in-Law did it, then shortly after MIL took ill and died. They had a house with a largish and complicated (multi-terrace) garden and it had really been her thing. He didn't want to stay in the house but after selling it and paying back the loan there wasn't enough to buy much else. Rest of the family had to wade in to help - without that he'd have been stuck in the house.

cranford10

360 posts

146 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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1. No it is not a scam
2. All fees and costs should be confirmed in writing at least 3 times at various stages . The amount to be owed at various times in the future is also confirmed in writing.
3. No you cannot take equity Release on a property that is not your main residence.
4. It is not right for everybody but if you do not want to move and are not concerned about leaving a maximum inheritance, then it can prove an attractive option

Clockwork Cupcake

80,067 posts

302 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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How is taking out a secured loan against your house a scam? It's just additional borrowing against your mortgage (if you have one) or taking out a mortgage (if you don't), surely? Or am I missing something here?

sidicks

25,218 posts

251 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
How is taking out a secured loan against your house a scam? It's just additional borrowing against your mortgage (if you have one) or taking out a mortgage (if you don't), surely? Or am I missing something here?
I don't think you can take out an equity release product if there is still an outstanding mortgage on the property (unless the equity release is to pay off the other mortgage).

Clockwork Cupcake

80,067 posts

302 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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sidicks said:
I don't think you can take out an equity release product if there is still an outstanding mortgage on the property (unless the equity release is to pay off the other mortgage).
So just like any remortgage then.