Any explanation other than clocked?

[tallpaul26]

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...

Idly browsing eBay and happened upon this 3 series. The mileage discrepancy appears to be due to clocking. Owner claims that BMW investigated, found no evidence of tampering and that mileage discrepancy could be due to the keys!

I know the E9X has the smart keys that store vehicle information. But surely clocking is the only sensible explanation?

Can anyone offer some other plausible reason or verify BMW’s explanation?

[ScoobyChris]

I’d say it was more likely the MOT tester miss-entering the mileage. Can’t see the point of clocking for such a small change?

Chris

[anonymous-user]

If it was a fault and not mot tester with butterfingers you would expect more E91's to have this 'fault' not just this one? Really weird one that is...

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 8th January 17:40

[Herbs]

ScoobyChris said:

I’d say it was more likely the MOT tester miss-entering the mileage. Can’t see the point of clocking for such a small change?

Chris

I was about to agree with you until it was 2 years on the bounce which although not impossible rules it out in my eyes.

[Yipper]

Has it had a dashboard replaced at some point, due to electrical failure or whatever.

[MorganP104]

I have to say, it's very honest of the seller to mention the mileage discrepancy in the advert, and then go on to give a full explanation.

If I were in the market for a BMW 3-Series of this vintage, I'd be inclined to trust the seller.

[Sir Bagalot]

Herbs said:

ScoobyChris said:

I’d say it was more likely the MOT tester miss-entering the mileage. Can’t see the point of clocking for such a small change?

Chris

I was about to agree with you until it was 2 years on the bounce which although not impossible rules it out in my eyes.

^^This

7 years ago few knew mileage was logged every year. I'd say a clocked BM

[Billyray911]

Nice Monaro in the garage.

[davek_964]

Herbs said:

ScoobyChris said:

I’d say it was more likely the MOT tester miss-entering the mileage. Can’t see the point of clocking for such a small change?

Chris

I was about to agree with you until it was 2 years on the bounce which although not impossible rules it out in my eyes.

It isn't two years on the bounce though is it? It looks like the MOT and Service were done at the same time, so the mileage was entered incorrectly for the MOT / service in 2010 (service book could easily have had the mileage copied from the MOT certificate).
It's then 30,832 in 2011 and 33,125 in 2012.

[Herbs]

davek_964 said:

It isn't two years on the bounce though is it? It looks like the MOT and Service were done at the same time, so the mileage was entered incorrectly for the MOT / service in 2010 (service book could easily have had the mileage copied from the MOT certificate).
It's then 30,832 in 2011 and 33,125 in 2012.

Depends, the only way it would be just the one year is if the 2010 mileage was meant to be 25 k instead of 35k, otherwise assuming the 2010 mileage and service book is correct, both the 2011 and 2012 would have had to have been mistypes as both are under the original mileage.

You'd think the owner would have noticed if they accidentally increased the mileage by almost 50% though!

[davek_964]

Herbs said:

davek_964 said:

It isn't two years on the bounce though is it? It looks like the MOT and Service were done at the same time, so the mileage was entered incorrectly for the MOT / service in 2010 (service book could easily have had the mileage copied from the MOT certificate).
It's then 30,832 in 2011 and 33,125 in 2012.

Depends, the only way it would be just the one year is if the 2010 mileage was meant to be 25 k instead of 35k, otherwise assuming the 2010 mileage and service book is correct, both the 2011 and 2012 would have had to have been mistypes as both are under the original mileage.

You'd think the owner would have noticed if they accidentally increased the mileage by almost 50% though!

I'm not convinced.

I get my cars MOTd and serviced every year. I don't think I've ever checked the mileage on the MOT or service book.

[CarAbuser]

The key will sync the cars mileage whenever it's inserted. So this could happen if the owner had a rarely used second key and took his car to BMW for a service but gave them the second key which had not been plugged into the car for a year rather than his own. They will have read the mileage from the key for the documentation before plugging it into the car for the test.

[Herbs]

davek_964 said:

Herbs said:

davek_964 said:

It isn't two years on the bounce though is it? It looks like the MOT and Service were done at the same time, so the mileage was entered incorrectly for the MOT / service in 2010 (service book could easily have had the mileage copied from the MOT certificate).
It's then 30,832 in 2011 and 33,125 in 2012.

Depends, the only way it would be just the one year is if the 2010 mileage was meant to be 25 k instead of 35k, otherwise assuming the 2010 mileage and service book is correct, both the 2011 and 2012 would have had to have been mistypes as both are under the original mileage.

You'd think the owner would have noticed if they accidentally increased the mileage by almost 50% though!

I'm not convinced.

I get my cars MOTd and serviced every year. I don't think I've ever checked the mileage on the MOT or service book.

Really?

I always do, funnily enough I had to get mine corrected this year because the MOT knocked 20k off the mileage by mistake

[joropug]

In my opinion probably clocked before Mots to show low mileage year instead of a high mileage year to retain residuals. Could have done 30k x2. The fact it went back could be easily be a balls up guestimate.

I recently bought an 06 focus on sub 60k. Had done 1k a year with what I assumed was a younger owner. Bought it anyway and it lasted less than a day. Got a full refund luckily from a Honda dealer. I suspect in hindsight it had the same treatment.

Personally wouldn't touch it, good of them to point it out though.

[strath44]

My 2 cents.....

The first mileage was originally logged wrong in 2010, the second 2 are correct. The 3k miles increase in a year is low but not impossible - the cars wear and tear looks consistent.

I can't see many cars getting the mileage rolled back beyond where it should be, ie what's shown in the 2010 stamp!!

I don't know about BMW but with Audi you can run software (which I have done on my A6) which tells you the actual mileage using different systems other than those used by the display, therefore telling you if there is an issue, it looks like BMW carried out this check already as they were happy there are no tampering issues!