HELP buying independent dealer with outstanding finance
HELP buying independent dealer with outstanding finance
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Jas-fpn3a

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23 posts

97 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Hi Fellow Piston Heads,

Need some advice - test drove a nice 2012 bmw 640d on monday from an independent dealer (operates from home, no premises). He first said he took it in as a p/x. All looked fine apart from the fact in had 5 previous owners and last owner only had it for a few weeks.

He said last onwer sold it quicky as he wanted a car that the dealer had (bmw e46 m3 csl). I was weary of this and found the previous owner on facebook who couldnt recommend the car highly enough.

Anyway, one hour before purchase I did a hpi check and it came up with outstanding finance. The finance was for the same date as the last onwers purchase date. I spoke to the trader and he then revealed he has it as a sale or return. He never mentioned anything about outstanding finance before and had I not done the check I dont think he would have divulged this information. Now I know why the previous buyer was telling me on facebook the car is great, etc.....as he still owns it.

Anyway, its a good price with decent mileage and he said he will clear the finance if I pay a £500 deposit.

Looked on his website and he has 18 cars listed but are not listed on any major sites anywhere (ebay, autotrader, PH) apart from the 640d. I think this may be the only car he has on sale. He is registered with companies house though.

Stay well clear or pursue???

Amused2death

2,517 posts

218 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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If it were me......"Run Forrest, run"

Too much to go wrong.

There will be other cars available with less hassle involved.

mgv8

1,657 posts

293 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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There will be more cars out there, and ones the story is that long I would expect your mind will never be fully at rest about owning it.

krisdelta

4,661 posts

223 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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A car without a back story will be easier to sell, if there are comparable cars out there.. why not buy it from a dealer with some come-back? SoR not being mentioned until you've done an HPI would make me suspicious.

wfw14b

357 posts

216 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Too many alarm bells for my liking. Go with gut instinct on this one. I wouldn't chance it. I would shop around don't let your heart rule.

I would be asking why you need to pay £500 and he will clear the finance. If he can afford to do that after you paying only £500 deposit im sure he can clear the finance before you hand over a deposit.

anonymous-user

76 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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As strange at it sounds the dealer not telling you it has finance outstanding and on SOR is actually committing a criminal offence. This is the problem so many dealers shirking there responsibilities in law, I would look elsewhere.

Krikkit

27,788 posts

203 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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krisdelta said:
A car without a back story will be easier to sell, if there are comparable cars out there.. why not buy it from a dealer with some come-back? SoR not being mentioned until you've done an HPI would make me suspicious.
Me too - SoR with finance wouldn't be an issue for me if it was presented up front, but hiding it from a serious buyer isn't cool.

Jas-fpn3a

Original Poster:

23 posts

97 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Thanks guys, great advice and many valid points. As much as I like the car I'm going to walk away on this one.